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published in(发表于) 2013/10/26 11:03:00
Zhengzhou jinshui for garbage trucks to sanitation workers enlisted 7,500 Yuan deposit question

Zhengzhou jinshui 7,500 Yuan deposit for garbage trucks to sanitation workers levy questioned | | | sanitation workers refuse collection vehicles deposit _ Sina News October 24, 2013 (Edit: SN094)

  Deposit 7,500 garbage trucks had to worry about the bad sanitation workers



Withholding may lose his job paid "too much"



Counsel received the deposit for violation of the labour contract law


"Sanitation workers talk about 7,500 Yuan deposit! "Address: Zhengzhou city, a new sanitation workers closed automatic refuse collection vehicles, sanitation workers were told but have to pay 7,500 Yuan deposit in my car. This appalling sanitation workers a bit "too much", but does not pay and worried about losing his job. Yesterday, a Zhengzhou dustmen daughter call East this report reflects the situation, and called for "less can deposit"!


-East today Daily News Bureau Chief Zhang Xiaodong/fuyuhan/text


For sanitation, dustmen, garbage trucks with enclosed automatic, ought to be a good thing, but if everyone to pay 7,500 Yuan deposit, it did allow many sanitation workers were "too much", through the media: "this aborted to save a year of money equivalent to 7,500 Yuan can fewer? ”


  "Complaints"



A sanitation worker daughters phone complaint


Morning of October 23, the Lady working at the Zhengzhou reported to this incoming call "grievance", her mother is fifty or sixty years old, made for many years in the Garden Road jinshui district, Zhengzhou city, sanitation workers, with the recent change of garbage truck problem, would face "unemployment."


"My mother a month's wages for thousands of dollars, except eating, rent, left hundreds of dollars a month. Unit closed automatic notification for the new garbage trucks, each one sanitation worker to pay 7,500 Yuan for upgrading the trash deposit, but my Mom can't come up at all. "Said a woman surnamed Zhang, like her mother's age, getting a job is not easy, if you come up with a deposit, is likely to lose.


Miss Cheung said, and for this, she and her mother had to worry about for several days, even want someone occupied, with 7,500-dollar cost-sharing, but looking for a week and couldn't find the right, Miss Cheung advised mothers to quit, she can provide for her mother's life, but when the mother is in good health and do nothing, intends to apply to the units transferred post.


  "Investigation"



Two-year savings to pay 7,500 Yuan deposit


Compared to past "along the way, one drop and one stinking" garbage truck, now converted into stainless steel closed and automated, versatile garbage trucks, Betty's mother, she is also very convenient.


Yesterday, the Orient at a waste transfer station, West Canal Road, Zhengzhou city, this reporter saw several upgrading electric garbage truck, sanitation workers refuse just back at the pit, start button and can be automatically dumped garbage, "before using tool-assisted refuse, now it's really convenient. "A garbage sanitation worker said that in order not to lose my job, he put most of his savings in two years when the deposits turned in," I heard the first deposit 7,500 dollars, the second batch of about 8,000 yuan, because it is a deposit is not returned. ”


During the interview, many sanitation workers understand Government to collect the deposit, "after all you expensive car is. "Sanitation workers say, they knew, but, after all," which is equivalent to aborted to save money one year, 7,500 Yuan can fewer "?


During the interview, many sanitation workers face the press asked, afraid to give his name or even responsible for sections "are here to make a living doing physical work, says a word more for nothing when he lost his job. "Sanitation workers say.


 "Feedback"



Sanitation movement of workers worried about one car, no


Yesterday, the orient this reporter learned from, jinshui district, Zhengzhou city authority City Branch, from August 25, jinshui district, Zhengzhou city, the first batch of 30 junk two of upgrading the interchange was officially put into operation. "Now upgrading with more than 100 vehicles, before the end of the year, jinshui District more than 500 vehicles garbage truck all renovation is completed, involving four hundred or five hundred sanitation workers. "Cityscape section a staff surnamed Zhang explained.


The staff on the collecting 7,500 Yuan deposit is essentially a car cost a lot, because sanitation worker mobility is relatively large, "if people take the car and go, the Government's investment does not guarantee? "The staff member said, when they don't have a car, cars, and then return the deposit to them.


Sanitation workers are concerned about "what harm" and "maintenance of what" "return of the depreciation", and so on, the staff explained that "normal wear and tear is normal, no depreciation will not be deducting money from the deposit, but man-made damage must pay to repair yourself, has just been put into upgrading the garbage truck, is currently developing specific management approach. ”


  "Lawyer"



Deposit charged to the sanitation worker arrested for violations of the labor contract law


"To charge workers a certain amount of deposit, has got to be work after signing the contract, according to the actual needs of the operator, the voluntary party workers themselves. "Henan and law firm Tian Haikang said in the labor contract law has received employee security and illegal to receive a deposit liability expressly states that" an employer has violated the provisions, based on security or other charge to the worker in the name property, the labor Administrative Department ordered the return of workers themselves, and standards below 500 Yuan to 2000 Yuan per person penalty. ”


Tian Haikang counsel, jinshui district sanitation worker was charged 7,500 Yuan deposit were allegedly found in breach of the law on labor contracts. DF


  Comments



Festival can not clogging sanitation workers, please


This Chief commentator Li Chang-Orient needs


October 26 is a day? I'm afraid most people bewildered looks on their faces. Henan province is the 16th "sanitation workers". Henan has organized 15, 16th coming soon, some of them have held for sanitation workers celebrate in advance, but address: Zhengzhou city, the dustmen were looking so sad.


Worrying reason is money. Want to get a new garbage trucks, "high-end atmosphere on the grade" a lot easier to save, supposedly the dustmen the Cheer is, nobody cheers, reason is that because of the need to pay a 7,500-dollar deposit. The wages of thousands of dollars for the dustmen, removing the cost of eating and drinking, you must save for how long?


Compared to a job, to be willing to put up with all sorts of peculiar smell, to be willing to put up with all sorts of "non-citizen" treatment, also reflects the dustmen were treasure with the job.


Between the paid and non-paid, employment and unemployment are "fighting" was a tough interlocking of live samples. It can be said that the 7,500 dollars comes at an awkward time, holiday, but this time, clogging.


7,500 multiplied by 500 people, equal to 3.75 million dollars, which is not a small sum.


Essential tools for garbage trucks for the dustmen, if "God" gave them a chance to choose, gives them the choice of paying a deposit does not pay the deposit of old and new garbage trucks garbage trucks, many people will opt for the latter to meet their own Festival.


Would like to ask is, in addition to the payment of deposit continue to dry and does not pay the deposit and leave, there is no "third way" go?


  Reporter's notes



Will changing solutions



For sanitation workers to work more enjoyable


Brand new sealed garbage truck road, jinshui district, Zhengzhou city, replaced, both functional and aesthetic. According to the Urban Services Department, located 500 garbage truck modification will be completed by the end of, I believe, original intention is to let the city sports a cleaner and more elegant.


But sanitation workers to low-income workers, 7,500 Yuan deposit is astronomical, but it does not pay, it may well lose my job, so even if you have "complaint" have to grin and bear it.


Could seek other ways? Or less the deposit, for them to enjoy the facilities provided by the Government at the same time, from the heart of embarrassment, work more pleasant?

East today
(郑州金水换垃圾车向环卫工征7500元押金引质疑|环卫工人|垃圾车|押金_新浪新闻
2013年10月24日06:18
(编辑:SN094)

  7500元垃圾车押金愁坏环卫工



  不缴可能丢饭碗缴了“吃不消”



  律师称收押金涉嫌违反《劳动合同法》


  【让环卫工纠结的7500元押金!】郑州市金水区一线环卫工新换了封闭式全自动垃圾车,但每名环卫工被告知要缴纳7500元的用车押金。这让收入低微的环卫工有点“吃不消”,但不缴又担心丢了工作。昨天,郑州一名垃圾清运工的女儿致电东方今报反映此事,并呼吁“押金能不能少点”!


  □东方今报记者 付雨涵/文 首席记者 张晓冬/图


  对于环卫垃圾清运工来说,垃圾车换成了封闭式全自动的,应该是件好事,可要是每人都缴纳7500元的押金,这确实让不少环卫工感到“吃不消”,他们借助媒体呼吁:“这相当于撂进去积攒一年的钱,7500元能不能少一些?”


  【投诉】



  一位环卫工女儿的电话诉苦


  10月23日上午,在郑州工作的张女士向今报来电“诉苦”,她母亲今年五六十岁,在郑州市金水区花园路段做了多年环卫工,最近因为改换垃圾清运车的问题,将面临“失业”。


  “我妈妈一个月工资也就千把块钱,除去吃喝房租,一个月剩不下几百元钱。单位通知因为换了全新的封闭式全自动垃圾车,每名环卫工要缴纳7500元的改造升级垃圾车押金,但我妈妈根本拿不出来。”张女士说,像她母亲这个年龄,找份工作不容易,如果拿不出押金,工作就可能保不住了。


  张女士说,为这事儿,她和母亲愁了好几天,甚至想找个人入伙,一起分摊7500元的费用,但寻觅一周也没找到合适的,张女士劝母亲辞职,她可以供养母亲的生活,但母亲不想在身体健康的时候无所事事,打算向单位申请调岗。


  【调查】



  两年积蓄全缴了7500元押金


  相比以往“一路走、一路滴、一路臭”的垃圾车,现在改成了不锈钢封闭式且自动化的全能垃圾车,张女士的母亲林女士也觉得非常方便。


  昨天,东方今报记者在郑州市渠西路垃圾中转站见到几辆改造升级的电动垃圾车,环卫工人们倒垃圾只要把车尾对准坑槽,启动按钮,就可以自动倾倒垃圾,“以前要用工具辅助倒垃圾,现在确实方便了。”一名正倒垃圾的环卫工人说,为了不丢工作,他把两年来的大部分积蓄都当押金上缴了,“听说第一批押金7500元,第二批要8000元呢,反正是押金,不会不退的。”


  采访中,多名环卫工人对政府收取的押金表示理解,“毕竟车子有恁贵。”环卫工人们说,他们心里明白,但是,毕竟“这相当于撂进去积攒一年的钱,7500元能不能少一些”?


  采访中,多名环卫工人面对记者的询问,不敢透露姓名甚至负责路段,“都是讨生活来这儿干体力活的,多说一句话丢了工作太不值当了。”环卫工人们说。


  【回应】



  环卫工人流动大 担心人走车没


  昨日,东方今报记者从郑州市金水区城市管理局市容科了解到,从今年8月25日起,郑州市金水区首批升级改造的30辆垃圾二转车正式投入运行。“目前改造升级有100多辆,今年年底之前,金水全区500余辆垃圾车将全部改造完毕,涉及四五百名环卫工人。”市容科一名张姓工作人员解释。


  该工作人员介绍,收取7500元押金主要是考虑到车子造价很大,因为环卫工人人员流动比较大,“万一人带车子走了,政府的投资不就没有保障了?”该工作人员说,等到他们不用车子了,还车时再把押金退给他们。


  针对环卫工人们关心的“损害了怎么办”“维修费怎么算”“退还时的折旧费”等问题,该工作人员解释,“正常磨损属正常现象,没有折旧费,不会从押金里扣钱,但人为损害得自己掏钱修理,刚刚投入的升级改造垃圾车,目前正在制定具体的管理办法。”


  【律师】



  向环卫工收取押金涉嫌违反《劳动合同法》


  “向劳动者收取一定数额的抵押金,必须得是劳动合同签订后,根据经营者的实际需要,经劳动者本人自愿方可。”河南豫和律师事务所律师田海康说,《劳动合同法》中有对收取员工押金和违法收取押金的法律责任的明确说明,“用人单位违反规定,以担保或者其他名义向劳动者收取财物的,由劳动行政部门责令限期退还劳动者本人,并以每人500元以上2000元以下的标准处以罚款。”


  田海康律师称,像郑州市金水区环卫工被收取7500元押金的事情就涉嫌违反我国的《劳动合同法》。DF


  评论



  节日来临 能不给环卫工添堵吗


  □东方今报首席评论员 李长需


  10月26日是个什么日子?恐怕大多数人一脸茫然。将是河南省第十六届“环卫工人节”。河南已经举办了十五届,第十六届马上来临,有些地方已提前举办活动为环卫工人庆祝,但郑州市金水区的垃圾清运工们却一脸愁容。


  发愁的原因都是钱闹的。要换新垃圾车了,“高端大气上档次”,省事儿省力,按说垃圾清运工该欢呼才是,没人欢呼的原因就是因为需要缴纳7500元的押金。这对于月薪不过千把元的垃圾清运工来说,除去吃喝住的费用,得攒多长时间啊?


  相比于一份工作,能甘愿忍受各种的异味儿,能甘愿忍受各种“非公民”的待遇,也足见垃圾清运工们对这份工作的珍惜。


  在缴与不缴之间,是就业与失业的“打架”,是一个艰难生存样本的纠结。可以说,这7500元来得真不是时候,明明就要过节了,偏偏这个时候添堵。


  7500元乘以500人,等于375万元,这可不是一个小数目。


  垃圾车为垃圾清运工必备的工具,如果“上天”给他们一次选择的机会,让他们选择缴押金的新垃圾车与不缴押金的旧垃圾车,不少人一定会选择后者去迎接自己的节日。


  想问的是,除了缴押金继续干与不缴押金走人,没有“第三条道路”可走吗?


  记者手记



  可否换种解决方式



  让环卫工工作更舒心


  郑州市金水区更换全新封闭式垃圾清运车,确实既实用又美观。根据市政部门的说法,金水区年底前将完成500辆垃圾车技改,相信,初衷都是为了让我们的城市市容更加整洁、美观。


  但对收入低微的环卫工人们来说,7500元押金简直就是天文数字,但是不缴,就很可能丢了饭碗,所以,即便有“怨言”也要忍着。


  能不能寻求别的方式?或者少些押金,让他们享受政府提供便利的同时,免除内心的尴尬,工作得更舒心呢?


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