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DNA archaeology of Henan submission filter not authoritative Cao Cao tomb of skull

Archaeology of Henan said DNA is not the authority refused to send tomb of Cao Cao, Cao Cao tomb of skull | | | Henan archaeology _ news

Recently, the laboratory of human genetics of Fudan University has released Cao Cao's family's DNA. Jixi, shucheng, four of six descendants surnamed Cao's DNA with O2*-M268 type, in bozhou and "Yuen Bao Tomb pit first," Cao Ding discovered DNA. Experts believe that the descendants of Cao Cao, neither Cao Shen nor Xia Hou Shi adopt. The conclusion once again set off concern about the tomb of Cao Cao in Anyang, Henan province.


  Reliable spectrum


  Academic recognition


In this study, using ancient DNA identification of Fudan University. Makes many people feel this way wide of the mark. Qin Lingjie media has been involved in archaeological research and programming people believed that after years of migration and human development, genes may vary, DNA and archaeology is not necessarily accurate. Introduction Shanghai scholar Yasumune East, archaeology of ancient DNA has been largely academic recognition. Collection of ancient bone DNA extraction is not a simple surface, but using a special process to extract from within. Back in 1981, Chinese scientists to the Mawangdui Han grave nucleic acid isolation and identification of the Mummy, and published the first article on the study of the paleo-DNA.


After Cao Cao is determined from samples of family DNA testing backstepping, the confluence of six identical DNA surname Cao family can be traced back to around 1800 years ago. This way of science? Chinese study of Tomb Raider history expert Ni Fangliu and bozhou archaeological first Paris, believe that this approach is not absolutely perfect, but in line with the discipline and rigour of scientific research, "was absolutely no way to the conclusion of scientific research, 90% more than the possibility is very high. ”


  Bozhou surnamed Cao ye said


  Story will continue to tell of the devil


The CAO family DNA released six Cao Cao's descendants have been identified, bozhou Cao name and not one of them. For this, bozhou Cao named later, what do you think? Yesterday afternoon, journalists contacted Cao Tonglin bozhou Cao Yuan village. Prior to this, he and his people were joined by blood sampling at Fudan University. They used to think of myself as Cao Cao's descendants, he explained that the surname gathered near a temple of Fame Cao Cao, Cao Cao clan had a great influence, but did not completely documented in the family tree. Older man has said his family was moved here from Shanxi, with Cao Cao there isn't much I don't know.


"Of course is subject to scientific research. "Cao Tonglin said, everybody's mentality is very good," one can't write two words Cao. "He said that people used to education later Cao Cao the hero story.


Study of shucheng, identified as Cao Cao's descendants who Cao Youping said surnamed Cao spread all over, live the life, and no change for Cao Cao's descendants.


  Anyang check bone


  Henan refused to skull, submission


This announcement has aroused most controversy from the tomb of Cao Cao in Anyang, Henan province. It is understood that the past few years, research group of Professor Li Hui, who repeatedly found in Anyang, related departments, asking them to skull, submission, but were repeatedly denied.


Earlier, head of the Henan Institute of cultural relics related to media that the DNA and archaeology is not necessarily authoritative. However, such response in Ni Fangliu and Li can say is "guilty conscience". Many experts also said, why not give it a try?


Henan Anyang archaeological Liu Qingzhu, Director of the Institute of Chinese Academy of social sciences in Cao Cao's Tomb in the battle is considered to be "quite Cao Pai", said Fudan University and actively explore the spirit should be certain, but "to check bone after the parties agreed, that's already a cultural relic. "The reporter Wang Rigui)


  Tsao road of DNA testing


December 27, 2009


Henan Anyang announcement was found "Cao Cao's Tomb"


January 26, 2010


Fudan University, national campaign Cao clan, to use DNA to identify "Cao Cao's Tomb"


January 28, 2010


State Bureau of cultural relics in Anyang "caocao tomb" archaeological


On November 11, 2013


History and anthropology, Fudan University announced joint task group had been absolutely certain that Cao Cao's family's DNA, head of the Henan Institute of cultural relics and archaeology, DNA and archaeology is not necessarily authoritative refused, skull, submission


(Original title: "caocao tomb" to check bone)

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November 13, 2013 When online
(河南方面称DNA考古不权威 拒送检曹操墓头骨|曹操墓|河南|考古_新闻资讯

  近日,复旦大学人类遗传学实验室发布了曹操家族DNA。称绩溪、舒城等四省六地的曹姓后人的DNA同为O2*-M268型,和在亳州“元宝坑一号墓”发现的曹鼎DNA一致。专家认为,曹操既非曹参的后人,也非夏侯氏抱养。这一结论再次掀起各界对河南安阳曹操墓的关注。


  方式可靠谱


  在学界基本得到认可


  这次的研究中,复旦大学运用了古DNA鉴定。这种方式让很多人觉得不靠谱。一直从事考古研究和节目的媒体人秦凌杰认为,人类经过多年迁徙和发展,基因可能会发生变化,DNA考古不一定准确。上海学者康栋东介绍,古DNA考古已基本在学界得到认可。采集古代骨头的DNA也并不是简单地表面提取,而是用特殊工艺从内部提取。早在1981年,中国科学家对马王堆汉墓古尸进行了核酸分离与鉴定,就发表了首篇有关古DNA的研究报告。


  曹操家族DNA的确定来自于样本检测之后的反推,六地相同DNA曹姓家族的汇合点可追溯到1800年前左右。这种方式科学吗?中国盗墓史研究专家倪方六和亳州考古第一人李灿都认为,这种方法并不是百分之百完美,但符合科学研究的规律和严谨性,“科学研究本来就没有办法得出百分之百的结论,90%以上的可能性已经是很高的了。 ”


  亳州曹姓咋说


  将继续传颂曹操故事


  本次曹操家族DNA发布,确定了六支曹操后人,但亳州曹姓并不在此列。对于此,亳州曹姓后人有何看法?昨天下午,记者联系了亳州曹元村的曹同林。此前,他和族人一起参加了复旦大学血液采样。以前他们都认为自己是曹操后人,他介绍,曹姓聚集地附近有一个曹堂庙,在曹姓族人中影响很大,但家谱中并没有很完全的记载。老辈人曾说他们家族是从山西搬过来的,跟曹操有多大关系就不知道了。


  “当然以科学研究为准。 ”曹同林说,大家的心态都很好,“一笔写不出两个曹字。 ”他说,族人们还是会用曹操的英雄故事来教育后人。


  研究确定为曹操后人的舒城人曹友平则表示,曹姓分散各地,各过各的日子,并没有因是否为曹操后人有所改变。


  安阳是否验骨


  河南拒将头盖骨送检


  此次发布引起的最大争议来自河南安阳曹操墓。据了解,这几年,课题组李辉教授等人多次找到安阳相关部门,请求他们将头盖骨送检,但屡遭拒绝。


  此前,河南文物考古研究所相关负责人对媒体表示,DNA考古不一定权威。然而,这种回应在倪方六和李灿看来都是“心虚”的表现。很多专家也表示,为何不试一试?


  中国社会科学院考古研究所所长刘庆柱在河南安阳曹操墓之争中被认为是“挺曹派”,他表示复旦大学积极探索的精神应该肯定,但“若要验骨,也得经过各方同意,那已经是文物了。 ”记者 汪日贵)


  曹氏DNA检测之路


  2009年12月27日


  河南安阳对外宣布发现“曹操墓”


  2010年1月26日


  复旦大学全国征集曹姓子孙,欲用DNA辨别“曹操墓”


  2010年1月28日


  国家文物局认可安阳“曹操墓”考古过程


  2013年11月11日


  复旦大学历史学和人类学联合课题组宣布,已经完全确定曹操家族的DNA,河南文物考古研究所相关负责人称,DNA考古不一定权威,拒绝将头盖骨送检


(原标题:各界喊“曹操墓”去验骨)


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