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The author:(作者)归海一刀published in(发表于) 2013/11/14 3:06:48 Fudan University response to study on Cao Cao’s DNA： this is science， not funny
Recently, history and anthropology, Fudan University joint research team released the latest results of DNA studies on Cao Cao's family, discovered a gene common to rare family type. Internet abuzz about this, Netizen "hold research funds as a trifling matter, ' eat dinner with nothing to do, '" questions, discussion group, experts say, science is not fun, or utilitarian to help people "acceptance of ancestry", the research results from the genetic level to verify a number of namesake crowd for the first time in hundreds of years ago, is indeed a. Interdisciplinary collaboration in life sciences, and history, historical mysteries will also contribute to more open.
Focus
1 study on Cao Cao's DNA requirements?
Prior to this, in Anyang, Henan province "caocao tomb" truth has triggered widespread controversy. Today, Fudan released Cao Cao's family's DNA results, something borrowed "name of Cao Cao 's" Bo eye, pulling suspected of funding?
One of the experts on the team led Professor of History Department of Fudan University, Vice President of the Chinese society for the history of the Wei, Jin and South Korea Seung said, Cao Cao's family for their research, a scientific inevitability, there are causal factors. "Using genetic techniques to study history, success stories from many countries of the world, but mainly in the prehistoric, we hope to use this means to have written history. "At this time, claims to have discovered in Anyang, Henan province," Cao Cao's Tomb ". "We think that genetics and genomics tools can provide support for the authenticity of the tomb of Cao Cao, so they try to do. ”
Moreover, the pursuit of the Devil Gene "footprint" is relatively easy. Fudan modern anthropology MoE focus laboratory Professor Li Hui explained: first, Cao Cao family is imperial family, genealogy recorded comparison full, if casually found a general people of genealogy, not intermittent is missing recorded, certainly didn't approach do research; second, Cao Cao this people due to history controversy sexual, so fake of people not more, objective Shang guarantee has its family descendants of relative reliable; its three, Tsao clan of tombs concentrated, save conditions better, material rich, so help topics group soon found has first a cut mouth , Identified ancient DNA samples for testing. According to Xinhua News Agency
2 research is not "eat nothing"?
Many netizens wondering, academic significance is Cao Cao's DNA found? Similar not "nutrition" study, much has been said in the past. "In Liangshan 108 43 is not a true man, Li Bai was the first tricky Datang ... ... ' Shocking ' conclusion that can benefit the modern and future? ”
Research Group of experts responded, research is not "eat rice with nothing to do", not to help people "acceptance of ancestry", but proved the advantages of an interdisciplinary research and breakthroughs. Fudan University the research results from the genetic level to verify a number of namesake crowd for the first time in hundreds of years ago, is indeed a. Interdisciplinary collaboration in life sciences, and history, historical mysteries will also contribute to more open.
Han sheng said, in this Cao Cao family DNA of research in the, topics group validation has Han Prime Minister CAO Shen of family gene, and Cao Cao of family gene no relationship, thereby proved Cao Cao is Cao parameter descendants of claims wrong; second, civil legend "fuck" surname is Cao Cao descendants modified surname and to, after gene validation this two surname Zhijian also no clear of genetic relationship; also, research also indicates that existing of "Shi" gene and Cao Cao family gene also not consistent, so Cao Cao from Shi adopt and to of claims also not accurate.
Han-sheng said that on the basis of the study, one by anthropologists and historians participate in new disciplines--"history of anthropology", is expected to produce at Fudan University. According to Xinhua News Agency
Previous report:
Fudan responding to Cao Cao's family DNA findings challenge: uncover the mystery
Archaeology of Henan said DNA is not the authority refused to send Cao Cao tomb of skull
Cao Cao's Tomb in Henan authenticity controversy responded by saying we should not do DNA identification
Cao Cao's 70 Sun in response to DNA identification: convinced that descendants of Cao Cao Cao Xueqin
Fudan University, announced that determines DNA of Cao Cao's family name is non-Cao Cao's descendants
Fudan released Cao Cao's family's DNA: non-Xia Hou Shi adopt
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(Original title: Fudan University: study on Cao Cao's DNA "not funny")
近日，复旦大学历史学和人类学联合课题组发布了关于曹操家族DNA研究的最新成果，发现了一种罕见的家族内共有的基因类型。网民对此议论纷纷，针对网民“拿着科研经费当儿戏，‘吃饱了饭没事干’”的质疑，课题组专家表示，科学研究不是闹着玩，或者功利性地为了帮人“认祖归宗”，此次的研究成果，第一次从基因层面验证了许多同姓人群在千百年前确实是一家。而生命科学和历史学的跨学科合作，也将有助于更多历史谜团的揭开。
■ 焦点
1 研究曹操DNA是否为经费？
此前，河南安阳“曹操墓”的真假曾引发社会广泛争论。如今，复旦公布曹操家族的DNA研究成果，是否有借“曹操之名”博眼球、拉经费之嫌？
该课题组领衔专家之一复旦历史系教授、中国魏晋南北朝史学会副会长韩昇说，找曹操家族做研究，有科学的必然性，也有偶然因素。“用遗传学技术研究历史，世界很多国家都有成功的案例，但主要集中在史前，我们希望能够把这个手段运用到有文字记载的历史时期。”正好在这个时候，河南安阳宣称发现了“曹操墓”。“我们觉得，遗传基因学手段，可以为曹操墓的真伪提供佐证，于是就尝试去做了。”
而且，追寻曹操的基因“足迹”也相对容易。复旦现代人类学教育部重点实验室教授李辉解释：首先，曹操家族是帝王家族，家谱记载比较全，如果随便找一个普通老百姓的家谱，不是断断续续就是缺少记载，肯定没办法做研究；其次，曹操这个人由于历史争议性，所以假冒的人不多，客观上保证了其家族后代的相对可靠；其三，曹氏宗族的墓葬集中，保存条件较好，材料丰富，所以帮助课题组很快找到了第一个切入口，确定了检测的古DNA样本。 据新华社
2 研究是不是“吃饱没事干”？
不少网民纳闷，发现曹操的DNA究竟有什么学术意义？类似没有“营养”的研究，过去已有不少。如“梁山108将里有43位不是好汉，李白是大唐第一古惑仔……这样‘雷人’的结论，能造福现代和未来吗？”
课题组专家回应，研究不是“吃饱了饭没事干”，也不是为了帮人“认祖归宗”，而是证明了一种跨学科研究的优势和突破。复旦此次的研究成果，第一次从基因层面验证了许多同姓人群在千百年前确实是一家。而生命科学和历史学的跨学科合作，也将有助于更多历史谜团的揭开。
韩昇说，在这次曹操家族DNA的研究中，课题组验证了汉代丞相曹参的家族基因，与曹操的家族基因没有关系，从而证明曹操是曹参后人的说法有误；其次，民间传说“操”姓是曹操后代改姓而来，经过基因验证这两个姓氏之间也没有明确的遗传关系；另外，研究还表明现有的“夏侯氏”基因与曹操家族基因也不一致，因此曹操从夏侯氏抱养而来的说法也不准确。
韩昇表示，在该研究课题的基础上，一门由人类学家和历史学家共同参与的新学科——“历史人类学”，有望在复旦大学产生。 据新华社
先前报道：
复旦回应曹操家族DNA研究成果质疑：助揭开谜团
河南方面称DNA考古不权威 拒送检曹操墓头骨
河南曹操墓真伪惹争议 回应称暂不做DNA鉴定
曹操70代孙回应DNA鉴定：确信曹雪芹是曹操后裔
复旦大学宣布确定曹操家族DNA 操姓非曹操后代
复旦公布曹操家族DNA：非夏侯氏抱养
各方评论：
敬一山：曹操DNA鉴定，有人欢喜有人忧
郭文婧：研究DNA揭曹操身世意义何在？
张田勘：“曹操墓”验下DNA，没什么大不了
(原标题：复旦：研究曹操DNA“不是闹着玩”)
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