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Chinese Hebei County Government:No obligation to inform Super living baby for adoption that be hold

Hebei County Government: there is no obligation to inform was sent took one child girl | Township | comeback | baby _ news



















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Legal evening news (reporters Wen Rujun) by the legal evening news, first reported by the Hebei hug baby won the widespread concern in the community, this morning, the reporters through 18 years ago, his daughter took Liu to get the anxin County Government's pleadings and submitted a list of evidence and other related materials.







Liu family proposition "declassify took daughter adopted by sending address and living conditions of the people and" the pleadings by the anxin County Government said it did not have this information, much less making this kind of information, does not belong to the category of respondent information public.







Prior to this, the legal evening news on October 29, the baby was soon took 18 years unaccounted for after the inconclusive investigation proceedings before a court, the public prosecution service – Government ordered shall be done under the title of the published report. On May 28, 1995, Liu Laogen, Xia Fengge couples had their 3rd child. Because they do not meet the requirements, after the baby was born 12 days after being left 400 dollars forced away.







18, Liu looked away children.







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"Did not have the relevant information without first informing obligation"







A few days ago, Liu Jia the institution of administrative proceedings, convicting the accused anxin County people's Government to meet disclosure obligations, requiring clearly informed his daughter of unplanned births and adoptions, access to a court case.







The legal evening news reporter learned exclusively that pleadings only two pages of anxin County Government is divided into three parts, the plaintiff's claim was denied.







Pleadings said, Liu asked the County Government to disclose their addresses and adoption of the unplanned birth daughter was taken and living conditions, anxin County Government, does not have this information, much less making this kind of information, does not belong to the category of respondent information public.







Liu County open from planned their daughters were sent at the request addresses and the adoptee and the living conditions, the County Government said, the Government has to inform Liu publicly, have taken the initiative to fulfill their obligations, there are no administrative acts of omission.







At the same time, anxin County Government also said Liu discovery on June 8, 1995 on the unplanned birth daughter punishment information, prior to the County Government submitted an application for access to information not mentioned in the County Government as administrative omission does not exist.







Pleading also said the publicity of Government information on the premise that information exists and is applied to master, and that information should be available without the need of Executive summaries, processing, or redone. There is no evidence to indicate the presence of Liu Jia the public government information.







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"Pleading to be contradictory and vague"







Last night, Liu lawyer Raymond Lam told the legal evening news said in an interview with a reporter, anxin County pleadings self-contradictory.







"If the left holding the baby is not made on behalf of the local Government Act, such individuals are not tenable. "Raymond Lam said that was adopted, forced away also is selling is important, these are also the County and township levels has been evaded by the Government. If adopted, the public obligations in anxin County Government.







"If the saying by the County Government, the disclosure obligations in the Township, it should clearly inform the books ' public obligations in the townships ' and their answer was ' suggested to consult the township government. Replies not part of information disclosure, which from this angle the same notice was incorrect. "Raymond Lam said.







In pleadings, anxin County Government argues, information discovery on June 8, 1995 to their condemned to punishment by the plaintiff, before which Liu Jia to the respondent submitted an application for access to information not mentioned in the, there is no administrative omission. In this regard, Raymond Lam, said Liu Jia as farmers do not have the legal knowledge associated. Anxin County Government's pleadings is not law in French, and the content is very broad.







He also told reporters that the evidence currently available, then left holding the baby, is the result of decision at a meeting, is a governmental action or personal behavior is clear.







"10,000 step back, even individual behavior, but also at the County and township levels of Government under the default behavior. "Raymond Lam said.







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"The investigation team that no one, someone persuaded private settlement"







The end of October, liulaogen, Xia Fengge couples looking for daughter in her arms after the incident sparked considerable public concern, Vice Minister Zhang Shengwei anxin County party Committee propaganda Department told the legal evening news reporter, the County Government overnight to set up an investigation team, and said it would restore the truth as soon as possible.







Liu's son Liu led group told the legal evening news reporter, he and his family had to the investigation group has high hopes, they waited investigation team to understand the situation, as soon as possible into substantive investigation. For them, nothing was found, hope 18 years of loved ones more important things.







"But nobody, even the phone a", but rather is a village and village, to persuade them to "settle". "Private settlement means money, was flatly refused by us. The "leading group said that" Let us down ".







In this regard, this morning, the legal evening news reporter once again call anxin County Government, the County's head of publicity Department of the County Committee said over the phone, because home, himself recently did not work, so it may not be clear. Then, contact the publicity Department of the County Committee of the other phone, were unanswered.







Event reviews







On May 28, 1995, Xia Fengge couple 3rd baby was a daughter. According to Liu Laogen memories, on June 8 of that year, in the afternoon, leaving two women came to their homes after the 400 dollars, the baby away.







In 2003, Liu Laogen couple, anxin County township government to court against the administrative act unlawful. Anxin County Court to exceed the limitations prescribed by law as an excuse to dismiss Liu's prosecution. Subsequently, the Baoding municipal intermediate people's Court rejected Liu's appeal.







On December 15, 2012, the Baoding City Government "administrative review decision", ordered subordinates in anxin County Government 15th Government information open fulfil obligations.







On October 22 this year, Liu led groups and agents Woodcrest lawyers submitted the indictment of administrative litigation of the case, requested anxin County Court judgement according to the law the defendant anxin County people's Government to meet disclosure obligations.







At present, the proceedings were moved to the gaobeidian city, Hebei province people's Court.







This version of the article/reporter Wen Rujun







(Original title: pleading the case of the County Government will hold babies anxin County Government said it may fail to grasp the situation without first informing lawyers consider pleadings contradictory and vague)

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November 20, 2013 Legal evening news





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河北县政府:无义务告知被抱走超生女婴送养情况|乡政府|超生|女婴_新闻资讯




















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视频:河北超生女婴被乡政府强行抱走18年无下落


































  法制晚报讯(记者 温如军) 由《法制晚报》首报的《河北抱婴案》获得了社会的广泛关注,今天上午,记者通过18年前女儿被抱走的刘家拿到了安新县政府的答辩状及提交的证据目录等相关材料。







  对于刘家诉求“公开当年被抱走女儿被送的地址和收养人及生活状况”,这份由安新县政府作出的答辩状称,其并未掌握这一信息,更没有制作过这样的信息,不属于答辩人信息公开的范畴。







  此前,《法制晚报》在10月29日曾以《女婴出生不久被抱走 18年不知下落 法院起诉、检察院调查均无果后——政府责令须公布》为题做过报道。1995年5月28日,刘老根、夏凤各夫妇有了他们的第3个孩子。因不符合规定,孩子在出生12天后被人留下400元钱后强行抱走。







  18年间,刘家四处寻找被抱走的孩子。







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  “未掌握相关情况无告知义务”







  日前,刘家提起行政诉讼,请求判决被告安新县人民政府履行信息公开义务,要求明确告知其计划外生育的女儿送养及收养情况,获得法院立案。







  《法制晚报》记者独家获悉的这份安新县政府的答辩状只有两页共分三部分,均对原告的诉讼请求进行了否定。







  答辩状称,对于刘家要求县政府公开其计划外生育女儿被送的地址和收养人及生活状况,安新县政府称,并未掌握这一信息,更没有制作过这样的信息,不属于答辩人信息公开的范畴。







  对于刘家要求县政府公开其计划外女儿被送的地址和收养人及生活状况,县政府称,政府已向刘家公开告知书,已主动履行了自己的义务,不存在行政不作为的行为。







  同时,安新县政府还称,刘家要求告知1995年6月8日对其计划外生育女儿处罚的信息,这在之前向县政府提交的信息公开申请书中并未提到,县政府同样不存在行政不作为的行为。







  答辩状还称,政府信息公开的前提是信息存在且被申请机关掌握,并且应当是现有的信息,不需要行政机关汇总、加工,或重新制作。现在没有任何证据能够表明存在刘家所申请公开的政府信息。







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  “答辩状自相矛盾且内容笼统”







  昨晚,刘家代理律师林峰接受《法制晚报》记者采访时表示,安新县的答辩状内容自相矛盾。







  “如果抱走婴儿不是代表当地政府做出的行为,那这种个人行为是不能成立的。”林峰说,是收养、强制送人还是贩卖很重要,这些问题也是县、乡两级政府这么多年来一直回避的。如果涉及送养,这个公开义务在于安新县政府。







  “如果按县政府的说法,这个信息公开的义务在乡政府,其告知书上应该明确‘公开的义务在乡政府’,而他们的答复是‘建议去咨询乡政府’。这不属于信息公开的答复方式,从这个角度也说明了它当年的告知书是不正确的。”林峰说。







  至于答辩状中,安新县政府辩解,原告要求告知1995年6月8日对其超生处罚的信息,在之前刘家向答辩人提交的信息公开申请书中并未提到,不存在行政不作为。对此,林峰表示,刘家作为农民,不具备相关的法律知识。而安新县政府的答辩状也根本不是法言法语,且内容很笼统。







  他还告诉记者,就目前掌握的证据表明,当年抱走婴儿,是圈头乡开会决定的结果,是政府行为还是个人行为很清楚。







  “退一万步来说,就算是个人行为,也是在县、乡两级政府的默认下做出的行为。”林峰说。







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  “调查组没有人来,有人劝说私了”







  10月底,刘老根、夏凤各夫妇寻找被抱走女儿的事件引发公众极大的关注之后,安新县委宣传部副部长张胜伟曾对《法制晚报》记者透露,县政府连夜成立了调查组,并表示会尽快还原事件真相。







  刘老根的儿子刘领群告诉《法制晚报》记者,他和家人曾对调查组寄予厚望,一直等着调查组向他们了解情况,尽快进入实质调查。对他们来说,没有比找到想了、盼了18年的亲人更重要的事。







  “不但没有人来,就连电话都没打一个”,而相反的是乡里和村里来人,劝说他们“私了”。“私了意思就是拿钱,被我们一口拒绝。”刘领群说,“这让我们很失望”。







  对此,今天上午《法制晚报》记者再次致电安新县政府,该县县委宣传部负责人在电话中称,由于家里有事,自己最近没有上班,因此不太清楚相关情况。随后,记者致电县委宣传部的其他电话,均处于无人接听状态。







  事件回顾







  1995年5月28日,夏凤各夫妇生下第3个孩子,是个女儿。据刘老根回忆,当年6月8日下午,两名妇女来到家中留下400元钱后,将孩子抱走。







  2003年,刘老根夫妇,将安新县圈头乡政府告上法庭诉其行政行为违法。安新县法院以超出法律规定的诉讼时效为由驳回刘家的起诉。随后,保定市中级人民法院驳回刘家上诉。







  2012年12月15日,保定市政府作出“行政复议决定”,责令下级安新县政府15日内履行政府信息公开义务。







  今年10月22日,刘领群及案件代理人林峰律师递交了行政诉讼起诉书,请求安新县法院依法判决被告安新县人民政府履行信息公开义务。







  目前该诉讼被移至河北省高碑店市人民法院。







  本版文/记者 温如军







  (原标题:县政府交抱婴案答辩状 安新县政府称其未掌握情况 无告知义务 律师认为答辩状自相矛盾且内容笼统)




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2013年11月20日23:50


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