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published in(发表于) 2013/11/27 10:05:08
“3Q wars“, ne bis in idem, or upheld,

"3Q wars" or second instance upheld-360 qihoo 360, Tencent, 3Q vs-IT information "3Q wars" or second instance upheld

3Q battle lasts as long as four years without making waves. Yesterday, qihoo 360, (hereinafter referred to as 360) against Tencent monopoly case in the Supreme Court's first public hearings of the Tribunal, the first case of Internet antitrust case before the Supreme Court, for a domestic Internet antitrust ruling had iconic significance, but also caused widespread concern in the community, Hunan satellite TV even broadcast the whole process.

In March of this year, the Guangdong provincial high people's Court of first instance judgment of 360 v Tencent's abuse of a dominant position is not true, 796,000 yuan all litigation costs borne by the 360, 360 refuses, then "3Q wars" to the Supreme Court. A seesaw battle will end today? This lawsuit also impact on how often rumors of the Internet industry?

Five focus

From hearing a rare broadcast live by CCTV and Hunan TV, can see the heat of this dispute. Whatever the outcome, this is known as the "first case of Internet antitrust" case has a symbolic meaning. It's not just the enterprise or the enterprise loses or WINS a lawsuit, to a great extent influenced the development orientation of China's Internet industry.

In the trial, controversial issues, including five areas, involving a total of 22 specific questions.

First focus is how to define the relevant market? A second focus is Tencent (QQ instant messaging software) has a dominant position in the market? A third focus is Tencent (choose market competition behaviors) constitutes antitrust law prohibits the abuse of a dominant position? Fourth focus is civil liability to take? Qihoo 360 claims raised 150 million Yuan. The fifth focus is the Court of first instance (Guangdong Province High Court) procedure against the law? Refers primarily to the introduction of evidence without cross-examination.

In addition, the trial, Tencent and 360 respectively applied for expert witnesses to testify. But the result is that, no matter which side of the expert witnesses, the other party will question witnesses in court. So the judge had to verify identity and provides a detailed examination of witnesses at the scene, CV, work and so on.

Fierce confrontation on both sides of the Court, out of court, still charged full. Yesterday, qihoo 360 issued an open letter to the public-oriented, directed at Tencent: "on the face of the Internet in China is an innovative and dynamic ones, in fact, the Internet giant of monopolizing the market has already gone far beyond the financial, telecommunications, petroleum, power of old monopolies. Tencent is all of a company's market value has more than more than more than 40 overseas listed Chinese Internet companies had a market capitalisation of 50%, however a life version withered giant monopoly has led to desertification in China's Internet industry. ”

In response, Tencent is a distinct response, said only one year this year, Tencent to third party partners income has reached 3 billion yuan. "Doing business rather than who's loud, say far more than do the more who give entrepreneurs dream of heaven and Earth, who is killing the dreams of entrepreneurs, we naturally have a steelyard, and wish more and more entrepreneurs through its platform for their entrepreneurial ' China dream '. ”

Trial results, lawyers predict, the Supreme Court of second instance may with pretty much the same.

Event reviews

360 against Tencent monopoly case originally stems from the year 2010. 360 says, resulting from Tencent imitating 360 security guards launched "QQ doctor" (later renamed to QQ computer keeper). In February 12, 2010, which is new year's Eve night of the year, Tencent QQ update the default binding way, to promote "QQ doctor" this product successes "3Q war" the first shot.

Subsequently, the 360 company unveiled a special collection of "360 picks guard" security tool. 360 says the comprehensive security to protect QQ users, include blocking QQ file view user privacy, prevent Trojans steal QQ and QQ speed, filtering features such as advertising.

Tencent responded strongly, November 3, 2010, release of the letter to a vast number of QQ users, announced that stop running QQ software on computers equipped with 360 software, users must uninstall 360 software can login QQ, to force you to "choose", leading to a large number of users have been forced to remove the 360 software, strongly against the two companies.

Under the mediation of the Ministry, Tencent recovery compatible with 360 software, the two companies respectively, apologized to the user. Then two battle from a computer into the Court, Tencent first registered in Canton charges against 360, unfair competition, six months after the 360 companies in Guangdong to Tencent's acts of abuse of dominant position in the market to bring antitrust lawsuits.

On March 28 this year, the Guangdong Provincial High Court of first instance found that the company does not have a dominant position in the market, rejected all the claims of the plaintiffs 360. 360 company refuses to appeal to the Supreme People's Court.

Draw border

Ultimately, the "3Q wars" escalating war, its essence is nothing more than for the user's desktop client, which occupy the high ground at the entrance of the Internet. In recent years, browser , player, and input methods, the major Internet flame wars are consequential.

3Q conflict escalated, homogenization of competitive reflects not only the Internet, more revealing inadequate trade rules, intellectual property protection issues such as incomplete.

The industry believes that in recent years, among domestic Internet companies on imitation and plagiarism "war of words" and there, even in court. Appears to be the network of the enterprise, are actually rules out the storm.

Compared with the traditional business, the Internet industry has distinct characteristics, then this event is how Internet companies can experience?

Fang xingdong, experienced Internet experts believe that, in fact, doesn't matter who wins eventually lost the lawsuit, are important in China's Internet sector. Through the lawsuit can get these big Internet companies, know where the boundaries of their actions that can later be more self-discipline. Because many Internet companies in the field have their own monopolistic positions, if they are abusing this monopoly to consumers, in fact a large negative impact on the industry.

DCCI founder Hu argued that ecosystem open to founders is a good thing. He in 26th published micro-Bo said: 1. then see is bad now see is good, BAT wakes up has ecological open has tens of millions of entrepreneurs developer has vitality has; 2. seems malignant competition but has competition, real of full competition, 3Q are not humiliated; 3. what when financial telecommunications traffic energy, also has 3Q vs has, China economic on out of trough has; 4. lawsuit has had ecological point, at this time for photo souvenir; 5. yihou of yihou 3Q has cooperation necessary-may.

Results of the trial is not important, important is hard to look like tomorrow, there are more and better Internet products, the future of China's Internet industry as a whole.


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“3Q大战” 二审或维持原判 - 360,奇虎360,腾讯,3Q大战 - IT资讯
“3Q大战” 二审或维持原判

持续四年之久的3Q大战再起波澜。昨日,奇虎360(下称360)诉腾讯垄断案在最高法第一法庭公开审理,这场最高法审理的首例互联网反垄断案,对国内互联网反垄断的判决具有标志性意义,也引起社会的广泛关注,湖南卫视甚至直播了全过程。

今年3月,广东省高院初审判决360诉腾讯滥用市场支配地位不成立,全部79.6万元诉讼费用由360承担,360不服,于是“3Q大战”打到最高法。一场拉锯战今天将如何收场?这场官司又对经常打仗的互联网业有怎样的影响?

五个焦点

从庭审罕见地由央视和湖南卫视进行直播,可窥见这场纠纷的热度。不管最终结局如何,这场被称为“互联网反垄断第一案”的官司,都有着标志性意义。这不仅是这个企业或者那个企业输掉或者赢了一场官司,更在很大程度上影响着中国互联网业界的发展取向。

此次庭审中,争议焦点包括五个方面,涉及22个具体问题。

第一个焦点是如何界定相关市场?第二个焦点是腾讯(具体产品即QQ即时通讯软件)是否具有市场支配地位?第三个焦点是腾讯(二选一的市场竞争行为)是否构成反垄断法所禁止的滥用市场支配地位行为?第四个焦点是民事责任如何承担?奇虎360提出了1.5亿元赔偿请求。第五个焦点是一审法院(广东省高院)是否程序违法?主要指引入未经质证的证据。

除此之外,庭审中,360和腾讯还分别申请了专家证人出庭作证。但结果是,无论哪一方的专家证人出庭,另一方都会就证人身份当庭提出质疑。于是法官不得不现场核实并详细询问证人身份、履历、工作等情况。

庭上双方激烈交锋,庭外依然火药味十足。昨天,奇虎360面向公众发表公开信,内容直指腾讯:“中国互联网表面上是创新和有活力的行业,其实互联网巨头垄断市场的程度已经远远超越了金融、电信、石油、电力这些老牌的垄断行业。腾讯一家公司的市值已经超过全部40多家中国互联网海外上市公司总市值的50%,然而一将功成万骨枯,巨头垄断已使中国互联网产业荒漠化。”

对此,腾讯也态度鲜明作出回应,称仅今年一年,腾讯分给第三方合作伙伴的收入已高达30亿元。“做企业不是比谁的嗓门大,说得多不如做得多,究竟谁在给创业者梦想的天地,谁在扼杀创业者的梦想,大家的心里自然有一杆秤,希望越来越多的创业者通过腾讯的平台实现自己的创业‘中国梦’。”

而对于审判结果,有律师预测,最高院的二审结果可能与一审基本一致。

事件回顾

360诉腾讯垄断案最初源于2010年。360方面称,起因是腾讯公司模仿360安全卫士推出“QQ医生”(后改名为QQ电脑管家)。在2010年2月12日,也就是当年的除夕之夜,腾讯以其QQ升级时默认捆绑的方式,全面推广“QQ医生”这款产品,打响了“3Q大战”的第一枪。

随后,360公司则推出了一款名为“360扣扣保镖”的安全工具。360称该工具全面保护QQ用户的安全,包括阻止QQ查看用户隐私文件、防止木马盗取QQ以及给QQ加速,过滤广告等功能。

腾讯公司对此反应强烈,2010年11月3日晚6点发布《致广大QQ用户的一封信》,宣布在装有360软件的电脑上停止运行QQ软件,用户必须卸载360软件才可登陆QQ,强迫用户“二选一”,导致大量用户被迫删除了360的软件,两公司强烈对抗。

在工信部的调停下,腾讯公司恢复兼容360软件,两公司分别向用户致歉。随后两家的战场由电脑变为法庭,腾讯公司首先在注册地广东起诉360不正当竞争,半年后360公司也在广东对腾讯滥用市场支配地位行为提起反垄断诉讼。

今年3月28日广东省高院一审判定,腾讯不具有市场支配地位,驳回了原告360的全部诉讼请求。360公司不服向最高人民法院提出上诉。

划清行为边界

归根结底,“3Q大战”的硝烟不断升级,其实质无非在于争夺用户的桌面客户端,进而占据互联网入口的制高点。近年来,从浏览器、播放器乃至输入法,各大互联网口水战皆由此而起。

3Q之争不断升级,不仅折射出互联网同质化竞争之激烈,更凸显了行业规则不健全、知识产权保护不完备等问题。

业内人士认为,近年来,国内互联网企业之间关于模仿、抄袭的“口水战”不绝于耳,甚至不惜对簿公堂。表面上看是网企之争,实际上却是规则之困。

与传统商业相比,互联网行业有着鲜明的特性,那么通过此事件互联网企业可以得到哪些经验?

资深互联网专家方兴东认为,其实不论官司最终谁输谁赢,都对中国互联网业意义重大。通过这个官司能够让这些大的互联网公司,知道自己行为的边界在哪儿,以后可以更加自律。因为目前很多互联网公司在擅长领域里都有自己垄断性的位置,他们如果是滥用这种垄断以后实际上对消费者、对产业都会带来很大负面影响。

DCCI创始人胡延平则认为,生态开放对创业者而言是好事。他在26日发表微博表示:1.当时看是坏事现在看是好事,BAT醒了生态开放了千百万创业者开发者有生机了;2.貌似恶性竞争但有竞争,真刀真枪的充分竞争,3Q都不丢脸;3.什么时候金融电信交通能源等也有3Q大战了,中国经济就走出低谷了;4.官司已过生态时点,此时适合合影留念;5.以后的以后3Q有合作必要-可能。

其实这场公审的结果并不重要,重要的是目光要望向明天,那里有更多更好的互联网产品,更有整个中国互联网产业的未来。


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