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The author:(作者)hpmailerpublished in(发表于) 2013/11/30 9:40:30 Yongcheng， Henan highway you drive heavy fines， owners overwhelmed suicide
Yongcheng, Henan highway you drive heavy fines overwhelmed the owner committed suicide
On November 14, in yongcheng, Henan province a large van, local transport, the Highways Department have been fine. Must produce a monthly ticket (highways, 3,000 yuan per month) and annual tickets (transport 3,000 yuan a year) before release, female owner of the parties repeatedly pleaded in vain, serving highly toxic pesticides suicide on the spot, is still in hospital. Law enforcement, leaving only one sentence: you die, you die has nothing to do with us! Female owner drank pesticide after the family-hurry, seeking relief. Highways, law enforcement officials say, you drink drugs has nothing to do with me, have something you're looking for leadership, and then turn around and ran ... Finance and the economy and a half hours of CCTV reporters uncover in yongcheng, Henan road fines the inside story.
Henan province of Yong Cheng city is located in Henan most East, Henan, and Anhui, and Jiangsu, and Shandong four province junction, area area more than 2000 more square kilometers, is connection four province of traffic arteries, however a time yilai, has been has driver to we reflect said, here is famous of more than three more: law enforcement personnel more, fine amount more, fine pattern more, recently even has freight owners because cannot bear pattern diechu of fine and select has suicide, things what is how back thing does?
On November 20, the press conference of the economy and a half hours just to the yongcheng, truckers reflected to reporters, saying 6 days ago, on November 14, near the Yong Cheng city, da hamaji trucks marked with a stone, for alleged overloading, local transport, highways departments have search vehicle fines. Female owners of the parties in the case repeatedly pleaded to no avail, serving highly toxic pesticides suicide on the spot, are still in hospital for treatment. That question was going to get the big truck, still parked on the street did not drive away.
His name is Guo Wanli, is the driver of the lorry, to reporters about the economy and a half hours, it came to pass. November 14, Guo Wanli, as usual, riding in a pickup truck and car owners with Wen Li make a delivery. When the stone was pulled van when passing near the Yong Cheng city, da strand, a traffic law enforcement identification car suddenly accelerated from the left lane to pull ahead of them, force the van stopped.
Guo Wanli: there is a traffic law enforcement car, stopped me, and shut it down, (law enforcement officer) said (payment of years of punishment), I said, (year), he said show me the tickets, he says (year), I'll let you off the hook.
Guo Wanli said, he mentioned, refers to goods vehicle owners to the yongcheng transport, highways, law enforcement authorities in advance payment of over-limit penalty fee is divided into years pass, monthly pass in two ways. Year tickets are paid to the local transport law enforcement department, paid once a year and pay 3,000 yuan a year per vehicle. After payment you can overload, no longer have to pay the fines within a year; monthly is pay fees to the local highways, law enforcement authorities, and 3,000 yuan a month is also an overload, but is valid for only one month. Guo Wanli said that when he and the owners were thought as usual, as long as the show has had a year, brought law enforcement personnel would be released. But what they didn't expect was this time, transport and law enforcement officials did not release as usual, instead of a telephone, after a series of unexpected things happened.
Guo Wanli: after (transport enforcement officers) called Highway Bureau. To hear him say, an oversize vehicle on the road, but what do you think? About five minutes came out. To one road rule overtaking, mobile treatment for overtaking. There are four or five people, down to open my door, open, forced to drag me down.
Of the economy and a half hours of the reporters: How do they say that?
Guo Wanli: they say, come here, were overrun.
Read the local highways, law enforcement officers, Guo Wanli and owners quickly pulled out on October 29 penalty just to local highways departments to pay monthly.
Guo Wanli: pass. October 29 to November 29, this time from going unpunished. They say, but not now. We say we buy a monthly pass, why punish us? They say that whatever you are looking for leadership. I don't know, once heard, is a Deputy Director of the Highway Bureau, surnamed quarter, one they have a captain, named high, there is also a surname Hou.
Guo Wanli and owners confused and monthly after the fine is paid monthly to overload, even in the face of search vehicles, transport governance and highways are also ticket release, now wouldn't it? They also noted that similarly overloaded vehicles on the road has many or deadweight tonnage is much bigger than they are, is equally overloaded, but no one to take charge but they this truck being checked was taken.
Guo Wanli: their staff say, then how do they run, how the hell did you, talk about it. Where your money, you don't spend, we understand, is one such means. Then we (the owner) heard this, she (called) taxi drivers (selling pesticides shops), from the street near her (stop) a taxi to buy.
At the time the deadlock, a highways officer whispered Guo Wanli, they now only 3,000 yuan a month pass tired, still have to spend money on another RBI, highways can only be released by overloaded goods vehicles. Hearing all this, owners Wen Li immediately took a cab and left, seven or eight minutes later, Wen Li came back, holding a bottle of pesticide.
Guo Wanli: pesticides on the body, (the owner) took (pesticide) said, why don't you let me live, I'll die for you. (Highways, law enforcement officials) said, you die, you die has nothing to do with us.
Guo Wanli said heard claims of law enforcement officials, Wen Li do not hesitate to open a bottle, drank pesticide. Hearing the family of the owner quickly grabbed bottles and search and rescue.
Liu Huaizhou: you take my sister to the hospital, my sister ever had medicine, I (highways, law enforcement officials) said, you drink drugs has nothing to do with me, have something you're looking for leadership, when my sister doesn't go well, surnamed ran out of season.
Liu Huaizhou said his sister drank pesticide after the incident, several heads of the Department of Highways was there immediately drove away, law enforcement vehicles were at the scene refused to send people to the hospital. They still play "120" call an ambulance, sister Wen Li sent to hospital for medical treatment. So what happened at the scene it? Journalists of the economy and a half hours to find other parties, local highways authorities for solutions. After repeated communication wing City Highway Bureau of highways, brigade Captain Gao Yongfu eventually interviewed, said Gao Yongfu, however, things are not like that.
Gao Yongfu: reflects the fact with him is not the same thing. Isn't that passes, it is, I didn't. I don't know what monthly concept. Fine, you can overload and will punish you, no. We work with owners over and over again, you illegal overloading of vehicles, have propitiate. Our staff took down a bottle, taken after we put aside the owner.
The economy and a half hours, reporter: when law enforcement officers have sent her to the hospital?
Gao Yongfu: do not know the owner drank. No one knows her medicine.
The economy and a half hours, reporter: people say it.
Gao Yongfu: is that owners say, she said.
Highways enforcement officers, overload penalty is the normal law enforcement at the time they didn't know the owner by taking poison. This is clearly inconsistent with the owners said. At the same time, Guo Wanli they make, not directly released during the law enforcement process and dealt with, but also called highways, law enforcement officers in punishment, Gao Yongfu also do not agree.
Of the economy and a half hours of the reporter: why do you call over it?
Yongcheng, Henan Province Highway Bureau of highways, brigade Captain Gao Yongfu: we are overloading the main governance, since we test, to impose sanctions. Every time our traffic violation, will have to be monitored, sanctions, diversion, release, this is our program.
The reporter learned of the economy and a half hours, in yongcheng, road transport is managed by multiple departments. Transport, traffic Bureau, main tube passenger and cargo vehicle, the vehicle itself such as whether modifications and so on. Highways, it is governed by the highway authority, main Canal Road transport vehicles are overloaded, pose a security hazard for roads, transport and so on. So, exactly how local highways, transport departments of law enforcement? Overload detection stations they set up, usually overload and how governance is overweight? Journalists decided to go with a lorry driver who knows the area exactly once experienced. Truck drivers told reporters that from yongcheng city, 6 km, a man called gaozhuang overload detection station, was set up by the Transport Department, reflected than drivers. Of the economy and a half hours of the reporters on the scene found after careful observation, some suspected of overloading of trucks passing through this overload detection station or from a testing station next to a rural road detour past, there is no inspection station; or, even into the inspection station, a few minutes later, van opened Benares. Is that these vehicles are not overloaded, or is this the overload test in the other road, then, as a truck driver came to the testing station.
Overload detection station staff: if not more 65 (t), may be given a lighter punishment if over 65 (t) penalties.
Truck driver: does not exceed 65 without unloading (goods) you have to say.
Staff: I have just said, if it is a chemical fuel, could not unload, you can take care of you. (Per vehicle): 200 (USD).
It turns out that only 200 Yuan fines, even if it is overloaded or continue driving on the road. Dealing with the industry for a long time a truck driver said, overrun testing station has been doing. Van activist driver Wang Jinwu yongcheng local Highway Administration conducted several surveys to understand, he said, in fact, similar problems is more prevalent.
Wang Jinwu activist driver: we're from 2006, over-sized until now, managing the over-sized 9 years, I feel the biggest problem right now, is not to say that Van (over-sized decrease), and over-sized cure itself, overload limit itself, large team, as far as I know, some County, overload control team is greater than 100. According to the Ministry's standards, an overrun only 45 people, so it's this huge overload team, its sources of funding by a fine, fine credit. Fine, it can, the Unit well, treated well, is this.
Woman owner and her truck was exactly what happened, because parties in the hospital right now, can only wait for the next relevant sectors of intervention and investigation. But one thing is for sure, highways officials stressed that according to the procedure of law enforcement and investigation to the contrasts to 200 Yuan on the release. Yongcheng highway law enforcement officers how many people fine and what is the relationship between wages?
Yongcheng, Henan highway law enforcement a shore
Really like those as reflected by the owners, law enforcement officials seriously go beyond the number needed, operating costs relies on the fine? The press conference of the economy and a half hours of yongcheng transport, highways, law enforcement investigation and verification of how much.
Yongcheng, Henan Province Highway Bureau of Legislative Affairs Office Cao Xuejun, Director, law enforcement officers are 40 (men), the highways, including the (mobile) overload (people).
Of the economy and a half hours of the reporter: then what is your specific properties?
Cao Xuejun: specific nature we don't know, but we do not have temporary workers, all regular workers, we are law enforcement officers.
Face interviews, yongcheng Highway Council sum after a while, the head of the Legislative Affairs Office, told the press conference of the economy and a half hours, highways enforcement personnel a total of 40 people, but in the Brigade in charge of highways, who became another number.
Yongcheng, Henan Province Highway Bureau of highways, brigade Captain Gao Yongfu: in accordance with the Government's establishment of 70 people, currently now is 42.
Gao Yongfu said highways officers is 42 now, and Cao Xuejun vary, but the press conference of the economy and a half hours at the local highways, law enforcement detect point hit upon a list of tables, this number has changed, a total of 44 people.
Of the economy and a half hours of the reporter: 44 people?
Staff: 42 people.
Of the economy and a half hours of the press conference: this is not a subject of 44 people?
Staff: ... ...
The face of it, either, 40, 42 or 44, and overall are not great. If this is the whole truth yongcheng highways, and seems to understand. However, one Insider has told reporters that the number of local highways team, at least 1 time more times than these official told reporters.
The Insider: the enforcement agency, nearly 100 (people).
Of the economy and a half hours of the reporter: nearly 100 people? Why is there such a big gap?
The Insider: this is the same, Henan look alike. Can't let other people know.
In order to further prove himself telling the truth, this person also took out the local road authority contacts, he said, this address book has 48 people above highways enforcement agency.
The Insider: they are now serving, and there are a lot of people don't have to fill out.
Then, transport of personnel on the ground what is the situation?
Yongcheng, Henan province and Deputy Secretary for transportation management, transport the Brigade Captain Liu Xindong: 50 person, really, I said law enforcement officers.
Liu Xindong told reporters of the economy and a half hours, these 50 people, is the memory of what he said, specifically the number of members, looking for accountants, in which case the journalists wanted to see personnel roster, but, until the reporters left, did not see the accountant, never saw a staff roster, local transport administration law enforcement officers how many people, no one can say. So no matter how many people, such as staff salaries, office expenses and what are your sources?
Of the economy and a half hours of the reporters: how to solve (the income) funds?
Liu Xindong: top funds are more than 4 million (USD).
Of the economy and a half hours of the reporter: how many people can solve (revenue)?
Liu Xindong: so that is a big problem, now how much we really go to penalties, guarantees, guaranteed.
Of the economy and a half hours of the reporter: one year ... ... How much money penalty?
Liu Xindong: this ... ... and I did not participate.
Of the economy and a half hours of the reporter: over-limit charges a year how much?
Cao Xuejun: overrun (penalty), one year is probably received more than 3 million (USD), the money we don't ask.
The Insider: funding, now from all of this, in the course of their law enforcement, these fines, fined 100 bucks back (yet) to (law enforcement officers) 70 bucks wouldn't then (collection), and then decide how, how fine.
Of the economy and a half hours of the reporter: did the related documents?
Source: this document, you have to (go to) the financial sector, is not allowed to just be looking around. A (financial) system management, you don't get this, generally will not let you watch. So they mean this, you can't get to, that's how they.
The press conference of the economy and a half hours of yongcheng highways, transport sector interviews for two days, but in the end, local highways, transport the enforcement agency of the number of people, how much funding each year, the "overload" fine, fine is returned, the two officials did not give a clear answer. But often in these parts run drivers, drivers of goods vehicles, told reporters here, they were forced to transport, highways, a fine year tickets are perennial, monthly tickets for vehicles bought "insurance", but sometimes "insurance" is not insurance. The afternoon of November 14, Guo Wanli witnessed their owners drank pesticide suicide truck drivers told reporters that owners take fateful appearance beats Wen Li, and fines not only for the day, there is an important reason for this is that they were fined last month.
Guo Wanli: we (owners) does not work, because just last month over there, (was) punished for several tens of thousands of (Yuan), the heart to bear.
Guo Wanli said, although they were purchased on time year passes, but just as much as the events of the day, will fine just fine, there is no room for negotiation, so there was a book mentioned at the beginning of the owners to come together in extreme cases. In the course of the economy and a half hours of investigative journalist, received the masses, Highways Department law enforcement of illegal land use problems in the vehicle itself.
The economy and a half hours, reporter: as you can see, he says the car, queries about, by 2009, an offence not handled, that 2013 now, how have you used?
Yongcheng, Henan Province Highway Transportation Authority head: this situation, I don't know.
Of the economy and a half hours of the press conference: how to understand, just saying this stuff, that law enforcement is a was itself illegal.
Yongcheng, Henan Province Highway Transportation Authority head: unlawful.
Of the economy and a half hours of the reporter: then why still use of law enforcement cars?
Yongcheng, Henan Province Highway Transportation Authority head: now don't have a car.
Of the economy and a half hours of the reporter: car cars like this?
Yongcheng, Henan Province Highway Transportation Authority head: three car.
About its branch and financial said it is not clear, and we are not sure which department heads are silly or playing dumb. Across the country, there are also similar to the yongcheng, how is it possible to bid farewell to the highway? Located in Henan, Anhui, Jiangsu and Shandong provinces and the junction of yongcheng, Henan province, of the economy and a half hours of the reporter ran into a series of strange phenomena, ultra access to receive $ 200 million go without release, managers facing the camera but stressed that their punishment by program; insiders reflects the fine 70% returned, said hook, head of the accounts is not clear, no way to find out. In fact, the problems are not isolated cases of yongcheng.
Difficult to cure for three, Road King governance reasons
Highway "overload" the main reason for why it is difficult to cure? In this industry mud 10 years of van driver Wang Jinwu pointed out that, fundamental causes is existing institutional caused of, involves governance "three mess" of about sector on has a dozen a, including traffic police, and games political, and highways, and Chengguan, and environment, and health, and forestry, and salt, and QC, and business,, due to indistinct, and the sector although are law, but punishment standard, and amount how many and not as, this situation Xia, van driver pressure is big. He combined his experience dedicated to write an article, someone drew a caricature.
Wang Jinwu: each have their own standard, a fine ranging from 2000 to 100,000. Chengguan is below 20,000, transportation management is below 100,000, toll 16 times. Cross management. Such as vehicles, vehicles now, we buy trucks, according to the traffic safety law regulations, our driving license, you can begin to exercise. But that's not the case, according to the road transport regulations, you'll do a business card, no, was fined 100,000 yuan. You follow the road law, violation of traffic safety laws, you respect the traffic safety Act, you don't necessarily have to comply with regulations on road transport, you comply with the regulations on road transport, you do not have to comply with regulations of urban roads, so as long as (multiple departments), Government (Department Manager), truck driver, you are against the law.
Interview in the, do sth. in a fit of pique drink pesticide of Wen Li of brother introduced, they siblings two April 2013, common funded loan buy has this two car van, each car car more than 300,000 yuan, total more than 600,000 yuan, loan down more than 200,000 yuan, monthly needed repayment more than 20,000 more Yuan, was buckle of van is which a car, from April buy car to now, ran transport also on half more of time, but they light fine on equivalent this two car car of down has.
Owners of Wen Li's brother Liu Huaizhou: even the roads and traffic, as of now, has spent nearly 200,000 (USD).
Of the economy and a half hours of the press conference: what are they punished?
Liu Huaizhou: Henan, sometimes punished so tens of thousands of (Yuan).
Of the economy and a half hours of the reporter: there is some list?
Liu Huaizhou: this is a list.
Of the economy and a half hours of the reporters: what about the other lists?
Liu Huaizhou: found none, and this is when returning tickets, others found none. This is the more than 12,000, it is 20,005 (thousand RMB), are not clear. Now punish me, can't run. Loans in October I haven't paid, this November not paying, this two-month loan I never paid.
Wen Li's brother, Wen Li an day, total just over more than 300 bucks in his pocket, or his driver on the road for the meal, was fined fined Wen Li eventually chose not to pay the fines, drank pesticide. While this matter can be seen as a special case, but Highway overload control and highway issues is the development of the logistics industry today can you can't sill. So, how do you effectively solve the overload problem? Road management is also of yongcheng traffic police, as well as drive, from their point of view put forward his own proposal.
Yong Cheng City Public Security Bureau traffic police instructor Nie Shiliang: you include joint overload, this increase, but this is only an indicator, not the causes, but the root, from the source control, where these, these (overload) vehicles, where it came from, and where it comes from, let us get the source. (Production) manufacturers in this area, we should be, is the vehicle (standard), this is it. Second if we suggest the departments concerned, for the rectification of these, especially the modified treatment of large goods vehicles.
Activist driver Wang Jinwu: to from source put this single super limited, and discharge suppression live, and now of management, what sector also tube, results is the has the of standard, if this standard are Executive words, van fundamental survival not down, these law enforcement sector also knows, standard varies, but they the by the of standard, they only themselves of penalty of paragraph just, remaining governance super limited, is do looks of.
Seizing on the side of the truck
On November 26, the press conference of the economy and a half hours when leaving the yongcheng, Wen Li was seized by owners trucks still parked at the scene, had more than 10 days, and two local highways, law enforcement vehicles on the road after a previous, several law enforcement officers responsible for guarding, day and night alternately stand, eat and sleep in the car.
"Half an hour to watch"
Though eventually failed to see detailed accounts checklist, but from years of reported judgments, even if all open in yongcheng, Henan's Highway sector will lead to a really big secret, but is escrow a penalty, a fine return case. These years, we has see had too more similar of phenomenon, from Heilongjiang of Lindian County, Henan province of huaibin, and Shangqiu, Hubei Province of gongan County, all these place of Highway management sector seemed was imposed has also of "collective magic spell", and actually, if we again forward a step, will found, highway management sector suffered of actual is institutional magic spell, 2009 National range within of fuel tax reform Hou, series no perfect of supporting problem in quite degree Shang led to has this all. How to solve three messy? Answer is very clear, in addition to comprehensive implementation of responsibility system of administrative law enforcement and law enforcement funds by the financial security system, the more critical is break down sectoral silos, relying on a paper document or internal regulations can optionally punishment the situation must be changed. 18 plenary session has been clearly identified: integrated law enforcement body, the relative concentration of law enforcement powers, and promoting the integrated law enforcement powers and responsibilities to address crossover and duplicate law enforcement issues, establishing responsibilities were consolidated, authoritative and efficient law enforcement system. We are looking forward to, highway departments can really implement plenary requirements, first try, made significant breakthrough in road management for law enforcement.
河南永城公路乱开巨额罚款 不堪重负车主自杀
11月14日，河南永城一辆大货车，被当地运政、路政部门相继罚款。必须出示月票(每月给路政3000元)和年票(每年给运政3000元)才放行，当事女车主再三求情无果，当场服剧毒农药自杀，现在仍在医院抢救。而执法部门只留下一句话：你死，你死跟我们没关系！女车主喝下了农药后车主家人赶紧，寻求救援。路政执法人员却说，你喝药跟我没关系，有事你找领导去，然后掉头就跑了…央视财经《经济半小时》记者揭开河南永城公路乱罚款黑幕。
河南省的永城市地处河南最东部，河南、安徽、江苏、山东四省交界，辖区面积2000多平方公里，是连接四省的交通要道，然而一段时间以来，一直有司机向我们反映说，这里是有名的三多：执法人员多，罚款金额多，罚款花样多，最近甚至有货运车主因为无法承受花样迭出的罚款而选择了轻生，事情到底是怎么回事呢？
11月20日，《经济半小时》记者刚到永城，就有货车司机向记者反映，说6天前，也就是11月14日，永城市沱滨路附近有一辆拉石料的大货车，因涉嫌超载，被当地运政、路政部门相继查车罚款。当事女车主在再三求情没有结果的情况下，当场服剧毒农药自杀，到现在仍然在医院抢救治疗。而那辆涉事的被扣大货车，仍然停在马路上没有开走。
他叫郭万里，是这辆货车的司机，给《经济半小时》记者讲述了事情的经过。11月14日下午5点多，郭万里和往常一样，开着货车和车主温丽一起去送货。当这辆拉着石料的货车路过永城市沱滨路附近时，一辆有交通执法标识的车，突然加速从左侧车道超到他们前面，强行将货车拦了下来。
郭万里：有一辆交通局的执法车，就把我拦下来，拦下来，(执法人员)说有(缴过处罚的年)票吗，我说有(年)票，他说把票给我看看，他说有(年)票，我就不罚你了。
郭万里说，他的提到的票，指的是货车车主向永城运政、路政执法部门事先缴纳的超限罚款的费用，分为年票、月票两种。年票是向当地运政执法部门缴纳，一年缴一次，每辆车每年交3000元。缴款之后就可以超载行驶，一年之内不用再交罚款；月票则是向当地路政执法部门缴纳的费用，每月3000元，也是针对超载的，但有效期只有一个月。郭万里说，当时他和车主都以为像往常一样，只要拿出已经交过的年票，运政执法人员就会放行。但这次让他们没有想到的是，运政执法人员并没有像往常那样放行，反而打了一个电话，之后，一系列意想不到的事情发生了。
郭万里：之后(运政执法人员)就打电话，让公路局的过来。听到他说，路上有一个超限车辆，你们怎么看？ 大约有五分钟左右就过来了。来了一辆公路治超车，流动治超车。也有四五个人，下来之后就把我车门打开，打开、强行把我拽下来了。
《经济半小时》记者：他们怎么说呢？
郭万里：他们就是说，过来，超限了。
一看当地路政执法人员来了，郭万里和车主又赶紧拿出10月29日刚给当地路政部门缴过的罚款月票。
郭万里：月票。10月29号到11月29号，这个时间内不罚的。他们说现在不行了。我们说我们买过一次月票，为什么还要罚我们？他们说那不管，你找领导。我当时不知道，之后就听说了，有一个是公路局的副局长，姓季的，有一个他们有一个大队长、姓高的，还有一个姓侯的。
郭万里和车主这时有些糊涂了，原来每月交了罚款月票后是可以超载的，即使遇到查车，运政和路政也都是验票放行的，怎么今天就不行了呢？他们还注意到，公路上的同样超载的车有许多，甚至载重吨位比他们还要大很多，同样是超载行驶，却没有人去管，唯独他们这辆货车被查被扣。
郭万里：他们的工作人员说，那人家怎么跑的，你怎么跑的，就说这个。你该花钱的地方，你没有花到，让我们理解，就是这样一个意思。后来我们(车主)听到这话，她(叫)出租车司机，因为(卖农药商店)，离这个街比较近，她(拦)了个出租车去买的。
就在僵持时，有个路政人员悄悄告诉郭万里他们，现在每月只交3000元月票已经不行了，还得另外拿钱出来打点，路政这边才可以放行超载货车。听到这一切，车主温丽马上乘一辆出租车离开了，七八分钟后，温丽回来时，手里多了一瓶农药。
郭万里：农药在身上，(车主)拿了(农药)说，你要不让我过，我就死给你看。(路政执法人员)说，那你死，你死跟我们没关系。
郭万里说，听到执法人员的说法，温丽毫不犹豫地打开瓶子，喝下了农药。此时也闻讯赶来的车主家人赶紧夺下农药瓶，寻求救援。
刘怀洲：你抓紧把我妹送到医院吧，我妹都喝过药了，(路政执法人员)当时说的，你喝药跟我没关系，有事你找领导去，当时我妹妹情况不好，姓季的下车就跑了。
刘怀洲说，他妹妹喝农药事件发生后，当时路政部门在场的几位负责人立刻开车走了，现场的执法车也拒绝送人去医院。他们最后还是打“120”叫来救护车，才将妹妹温丽送到医院抢救。那么当时现场到底发生了什么呢？《经济半小时》记者找到当事的另一方，当地路政部门进行解。经过反复沟通，永城市公路局路政大队大队长高永福最终接受了采访，但高永福表示，事情并不是这样的。
高永福：跟他反映的情况不是一回事。那不是月票，它是，咱没有。我不知道月票什么概念。罚过了，你再超载，还会罚你，对不对。咱就跟车主反复的做工作，你车辆违章超载，一直在劝解。我们工作人员就把药瓶子夺下来了，夺下来以后，把车主给拖一边去了。
《经济半小时》记者：当时执法人员有没有送她去医院？
高永福：不知道车主喝药。没人知道她喝药。
《经济半小时》记者：人家明明都说出来了。
高永福：那是车主说的，这只是她说的。
路政部门的执法人员表示，超载处罚是正常执法，而且当时他们并不清楚车主有服毒的行为。这与车主一方所说的情况显然不一致。同时，对于郭万里他们提出的，在执法过程中没有直接放行或者处理，而是又打电话叫来路政执法人员参与处罚的说法，高永福也不认同。
《经济半小时》记者：为什么把你们叫过去呢？
河南永城市公路局路政大队大队长高永福：我们是治理超载主体，毕竟我们检测，去实施处罚。咱这每次违章，都要进行监测、处罚、分流、放行，这是咱程序。
《经济半小时》记者了解到，在永城，公路运输一直是由多个部门在管理。运政，是交通局管辖，主要管客运、货运车辆本身，比如车辆本身是否改装等。路政，则是由公路局管辖，主要管公路运输，车辆是否超载，对道路、运输是否带来安全危害等等。那么，当地路政、运政部门究竟是如何执法的？他们设立的超限检测站，平时又是如何治理超载超重的呢？记者决定跟着一名熟悉当地情况的货车司机进行一次体验。货车司机告诉记者，离永城市区6、7公里的地方，有一个叫高庄超限检测站，是运政部门设立的，司机反映强烈。《经济半小时》记者在现场仔细观察后发现，一些涉嫌超载的大货车路过这家超限检测站时，要么从检测站旁边的一条乡村公路绕道过去，根本不进检测站；要么，即使进了检测站，几分钟后，货车又开出来继续上路。是这些车都没超载吗，还是这个超载检测站里另有门道，随后，记者随着一名货车司机来到检测站里。
超限检测站工作人员：如果不超65(吨)，可以从轻处罚，如果超65(吨)肯定处罚。
货车司机：肯定不超65，不卸(货)你要讲。
工作人员：我刚才说了，如果是化工燃料，可以不卸货，可以照顾你。(每辆车交)200(元)。
原来，只要交200元罚款，即使超载也可以继续上路行驶。长期与这个行业打交道的一名货车司机说，超限检测站一直是这么做的。货车维权司机王金伍曾对永城当地的公路管理状况进行过多次调查了解，他说，其实类似的问题比较普遍。
维权司机王金伍：咱们从2006年，处理超限到现在，治理超限9年，我感觉现在最大的问题，并不是说货车(超限减少)了，而且治超限的本身，治超限的本身，人员队伍庞大，据我了解，有些县级，治超队伍大于100人。按照交通部的标准，一个超限站只有45个人，所以说它这个治超队伍庞大，它的经费来源靠罚款，罚款返款。罚款多了，它可以，这个单位福利好了，待遇好了，就是靠这个。
那位女车主和她的货车当时到底遭遇了什么，由于当事人眼下还在医院抢救，只能等待下一步相关部门的介入和调查。不过有一点可以确定，路政有关负责人强调的按程序执法和调查到的给200元就放行形成了鲜明对比。永城公路执法人员到底有多少人，罚款和工资待遇之间是什么关系？
河南永城公路执法一笔糊涂账
是不是真的像那些车主们所反映的那样，执法人员严重超编，运行费用全依靠罚款？《经济半小时》记者对永城运政、路政执法人员数量进行了调查核实。
河南省永城市公路局法制办主任曹学军：执法人员是40(人)，路政、包括(流动)治超(人员)。
《经济半小时》记者：那你们这个具体是什么性质的？
曹学军：具体性质我们也搞不清，但是我们没有临时工，全是正式工，我们全是执法人员。
面对采访，永城公路局法制办负责人在计算了一阵后告诉《经济半小时》记者，路政执法人员总共是40人，但在路政大队负责人那里，人员又变成了另外一个数字。
河南永城市公路局路政大队大队长高永福：按照这个政府的编制是70人，目前现在人员是42人。
高永福说，现在路政人员是42人，和曹学军的不尽相同，但《经济半小时》记者在当地路政执法检测点偶然发现一张人员名单表，这上面人数又有变化，总共有44个人。
《经济半小时》记者：有44个人？
工作人员：42个人。
《经济半小时》记者：这不是标的44个人？
工作人员：……
表面看，不论是40人、42人、还是44人，整体出入都不大。如果这就是永城路政的全部真实情况的话，似乎也能理解。然而，一位知情人却告诉记者，当地路政大队的人数，至少要比这些负责人告诉记者的要多一倍。
知情人：执法大队，将近100(人)。
《经济半小时》记者：将近100人？那怎么会有这么大差距？
知情人：这是一个样，河南一个样。不能让其他人知道。
为了进一步证明自己所言不虚，这位知情人士还拿出当地公路管理局通讯录，他说，光这本通讯录上面路政执法大队的人数就有48人。
知情人：他们现在在职的，还有很多人没填写。
那么，当地运政人员的人员情况又怎么样呢？
河南省永城运管局副局长兼运政大队大队长刘新栋：50个人，真的，我就说执法人员这些。
刘新栋告诉《经济半小时》记者，这50个人，他是凭记忆说的，具体人数多少，需要找财会人员，此时，记者提出想看看人员花名册，但是直到记者采访离开，没有见到相关的财会人员，也没看到人员花名册，当地运政执法人员究竟有多少人，仍然没有人能说清楚。那么不论是多少人，人员工资、办公费用等来源又是什么呢？
《经济半小时》记者：那怎么解决(人员收入)资金？
刘新栋：上面拨资金，也就400多万(元)。
《经济半小时》记者：能解决多少人(收入)？
刘新栋：这个所以说，就是很大的问题，现在有多少，我们真的去罚，能保证多少，能保证多少。
《经济半小时》记者：一年……罚了多少钱？
刘新栋：这个……，我没有参与。
《经济半小时》记者：超限站一年收费多少呢？
曹学军：超限(罚款)，一年大概是收300多万(元)，这个钱我们也不问。
知情人：经费，现在全部从这个，在他们执法这个过程中，这些罚款，罚100块钱，返(还)给(执法人员)70块钱好处费，然后(合)一块，然后决定怎么分，怎么罚。
《经济半小时》记者：这个有没有相关的单据？
知情人：这个单据，你要(去)财政部门，是不允许你随便乱看的。一个(财务)制度管理，不让用，一般是不会让你看的。所以他们指这个，你也查不到，他们就这样弄。
《经济半小时》记者对永城路政、运政两个部门采访了两天，但最终，对当地路政、运政执法大队究竟有多少人，每年经费多少，“治超”罚款多少，罚款是否返还，两个单位的有关负责人也没能给出明确答案。但常在这一带跑的货车司机、车主们告诉记者，在这里，他们被迫常年购买运政、路政罚款年票、月票来为车辆买“保险”，但是，有时候这种“保险”也不保险。11月14日下午，目睹自己车主喝农药自杀的货车司机郭万里告诉记者，车主温丽之所以拿命相搏，并不仅仅是为了当天的罚款，还有一个重要原因就是，上个月他们才被罚了。
郭万里 ：我们(车主)气得确实不行，因为上个月刚在那边，(被)罚了好几万(元)，这次心里面承受不了。
郭万里说，尽管他们都按时购买了年票月票，但就像当天发生的事情一样，要罚就罚，根本没有商量的余地，所以，才出现了本节目开头提到的车主以命相拼的极端个案。就在《经济半小时》记者调查的过程中，又接到群众反映，路政部门的执法车辆本身就存在违法使用问题。
《经济半小时》记者：你看，他说这个车，查询了解，是到2009年，违法未处理，那现在都2013年了，怎么还在使用？
河南省永城市道路运输管理局书记：具体这个情况，我不太了解。
《经济半小时》记者：那这个怎么理解，就说这个东西，这执法车是一种，本身就是违法的。
河南省永城市道路运输管理局书记：违法。
《经济半小时》记者：那怎么还在使用执法车呢？
河南省永城市道路运输管理局书记：现在没车。
《经济半小时》记者：像这种车有几辆车？
河南省永城市道路运输管理局书记：三个车。
对于自己部门的人员和财务说不清楚，我们不敢肯定这些部门负责人是真糊涂还是装糊涂。在全国，类似永城这样的地方还有多少，究竟有没有可能告别公路三乱？在地处河南、安徽、江苏、山东四省交界的河南永城，《经济半小时》记者遇到了一系列奇怪的现象，超取站收200元就随意放行，管理人员面对镜头却强调他们按程序处罚；知情人反映罚款70%返还，负责人却推脱说帐目不清楚，无从查起。事实上，永城存在的问题并不是个例。
三、公路超治难以根治的原因
对于公路“治超”为何难以根治的主要原因？在这个行业摸爬滚打10来年的货车司机王金伍指出，根本原因就是现有体制造成的，涉及治理“三乱”的有关部门就有十几个，包括交警、运政、路政、城管、环境、卫生、林业、盐业、质检、工商等，由于政出多门、各部门虽都有法可依，但处罚标准、金额多少又不一样，这种情况下，货车司机压力很大。为此他结合自己的感受体验专门写一篇文章，还请人画了一幅漫画。
王金伍：各有各的标准，罚款从2千到10万不等。城管是2万以下，运管是10万以下，收费站16倍。交叉管理。比如说车辆，现在车辆，我们买的货车，按照交通安全法的规定，我们办理行驶证，就可以上路行使了。但是事实不是那样，按照道路运输条例，你办一个运营证，不办，是10万元以下罚款。你遵守了公路法，违反了交通安全法，你尊重交通安全法，你不一定遵守道路运输条例，你遵守道路运输条例，你不一定遵守城市道路条例，所以说只要在(多个部门管理)部分，政府(多部门管理)部分，货车司机，你早晚都是违法。
采访中，负气喝农药的温丽的哥哥介绍，他们兄妹俩2013年4月，共同出资贷款买了这两辆货车，每辆车30多万元，共60多万元，贷款首付20多万元，每月需还贷2万多元，被扣的货车是其中一辆，从4月买车到现在，跑运输也就半年多的时间，但他们光罚款就相当于这两辆车的首付了。
车主温丽的哥哥刘怀洲：连公路加交通，截至到现在，将近花了20万(元)。
《经济半小时》记者：都是哪些罚的？
刘怀洲：河南的，有时候罚好几万(元)。
《经济半小时》记者：有几张单子？
刘怀洲：这是四张单子。
《经济半小时》记者：其它单子呢？
刘怀洲：有的找不着了，这是返回时候的票，其它的找不着了。这个是一万两千多的，这个是两万五(千元)的，都看不清了。现在罚得我，车都没法跑。10月份的贷款我都没交，这11月份的也没交，这两个月的贷款我都没交。
温丽的哥哥介绍，温丽跟车当天，兜里总共就只有300多块钱，还是他和司机在路上的饭钱，被罚款罚怕了温丽最终选择不交罚款，喝农药。尽管这件事可以看作是一个个案，但是公路治超和公路三乱问题的确是当今发展物流业怎么也迈不过去的坎。那么，怎么有效地解决超载超限问题？同样也是道路管理部门的永城交警，还有货运司机，从各自的角度提出了自己的建议。
永城市公安局交警大队教导员聂士亮：你包括联合治超，这个加大，但这只是一个指标不治本，但是要治本，从源头上治理，地点就是这些，这些(超载)车辆，从哪里来，从哪里来的，咱们找源头。(生产)厂家这方面，要做到，就是车辆(符合标准)，这是这一点。第二个咱们要是建议有关部门，针对整改这些，特别是大货车的改装进行治理。
维权司机王金伍：要从源头把这个单一超限、卸货制止住，而现在的管理，什么部门也管，结果是各有各的标准，如果这个标准都执行的话，货车根本生存不下去，这些执法部门也知道，标准不一，但是它们各按各的标准，它们只顾自己的罚的款而已，其余治理超限，是做样子的。
查扣在路边的货车
11月26日，《经济半小时》记者离开永城时，被查扣的车主温丽的货车，仍然停在事发现场，已经10多天了，当地两辆路政执法车一前一后堵在公路上，负责看守的几名执法人员，日夜轮流守侯，吃睡都在车上。
【半小时观察】
虽然最终也没能看到详细人员帐目清单，但从我们多年报道的判断看，即使全部如实公开，河南永城公路部门其实也不会有什么太大秘密，不外是又一个以罚代管，罚款返还的案例。这些年，我们已见过太多类似的现象，从黑龙江的林甸县，河南省的淮滨、商丘，湖北省的公安县，所有这些地方的公路管理部门仿佛被施加了同样的“集体魔咒”，而事实上，如果我们再往前一步，会发现，公路管理部门遭遇的实际是体制魔咒，2009年全国范围内的燃油税费改革后，一系列没有完善的配套问题在相当程度上导致了这一切。如何破解公路三乱？答案已经非常清晰，除了全面落实行政执法责任制和执法经费由财政保障制度外，更关键的是破除部门藩篱，依靠一纸文件或部门规章就可以随意处罚的状况必须得到改变。十八届三中全会已明确提出：整合执法主体，相对集中执法权，推进综合执法，着力解决权责交叉、多头执法问题，建立权责统一、权威高效的行政执法体制。我们期待着，公路主管部门能真正落实三中全会要求，先行先试，在公路管理执法方面取得重大突破。
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