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January 7, according to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs website news, on January 5, 2014, the United Kingdom Ambassador Liu Xiaoming accept United Kingdom BBC Radio International on the weekend (Weekend) presenter Julian (Julian Worricker) live interview, elaborate on China during Japan's invasion history, the Diaoyu Island sovereignty's solemn stand on the issue, comprehensive, in-depth jiepi Abe's restoration of militarism attempts, called on the international community to be on high alert. An interview with are as follows:
Js: Japan Prime Minister Shinzo Abe visited the Yasukuni shrine's refutation of the grounds by the Chinese Government. China United Kingdom Ambassador Liu Xiaoming calls on United Kingdom and the international community for Japan's restoration of militarism to be on high alert. Today, the Ambassador has come to our studios. The Ambassador, good morning.
Ambassador Liu: good morning.
Js: specific concerns over Abe's visits to the Yasukuni Shrine is?
Ambassador: we have expressed serious concern about Abe's visits to the Yasukuni Shrine. Yasukuni Shrine is Japan militarist external aggression and spiritual tools and symbols of colonial rule, still houses 14 class-a war criminals including Tojo. Tojo wage war not only China and the attack on Pearl Harbor, the United States and the United Kingdom and the Netherlands to war. This is one of the millions of Chinese people with blood on their hands of suspected war criminals.
Js: I see why people were so angry about Abe visits. But that ultimately no Japan Interior, right?
Ambassador: of course this is not Japan's internal affairs. Our concern is not only Japan's leaders on how to treat the prisoners of war and history, more concerned about their attitudes towards the future.
Js: you think Japan what is the attitude of the Government?
Ambassador: Japan's leaders pay tribute to war criminals, and displays on its history of aggression and colonial rule of no confession was intended. Japan's Deputy Prime Minister Taro Aso and even threaten, "Japan can learn from Nazi Germany of constitutional practice". Abe himself has advocated the so-called "aggression is not conclusive".
Js: I would like to further explore this issue. China is increasing military spending, said Chinese leaders will continue to increase military input. Your criticism of Japan, this is not a double standard?
Ambassador: I do not agree with your point of view. I would like to talk about China's military spending. China is a big country. China's land area is Japan 25 times times, populations were Japan 10 times, but Japan's per capita military spending is 5 times in China. As regards the proportion of Defense spending in the GDP, Japan and China.
Js: but China will increase military input, I think we should be clear on this point.
Ambassador Liu: it is because the Chinese economy continues to grow, China's national defense tasks is substantial. As I have said, China has a vast expanse of land and the need to defend. We have 14 neighbouring countries and 7 neighbours by sea on land, with 22,000 km land border lines and 32,000 kilometers of coastline.
Js: I would like to discuss some uninhabited islands in the East China Sea dispute. Sino-Japanese sovereignty over the Islands. As part of the dispute, China designated air defense identification zone unilaterally declared in the region. Japan will inevitably see this behaviour as "aggression".
Ambassador Liu: we call these islands known as the Diaoyu Islands. Diaoyu Islands have been China's territory.
Js: you know, Japan has a different opinion about this.
Ambassador: they will have a different view, but I was telling the truth. The facts are the facts. After the 1895 Sino-Japanese war, the Diaoyu Islands is Japan's unlawful invasion and occupation. During the second world war, Britain and the United States in the Cairo Declaration issued by the Summit of the three countries, Japan must return to China all the territories, including Taiwan and its surrounding islands, including of course the Diaoyu Islands. The early 50, United States takes over the Diaoyu Islands. Due to reasons of the cold war, United States no handover to China's Diaoyu Islands and its satellite islands. Because the United States needed Japan. The 70 's of the last century, United States Japan hand over Diaoyu Islands administrative jurisdiction. But the United States also remained neutral on the sovereignty over the Diaoyu Islands issue, did not recognize Japan has sovereignty over the Diaoyu Islands.
Js: in addition to exacerbating the already tense dispute outside, do you think that China is unilaterally designated air defense identification zone at what purpose?
Ambassador: Please let me say about the Diaoyu Islands. 70 's of the last century after the normalization of relations, the two leaders reached an understanding, agreed to put the Diaoyu Islands issue, resolved later. In 1978, the Chinese leader Deng Xiaoping visits Japan when asked about ownership of the Diaoyu Islands. Deng Xiaoping said: the problem with Japan is controversial, could put it, perhaps the next generation of people smarter than us, you will find practical ways to solve. So the two leaders decided to shelve the controversy. But in recent years, Japan Times interview the unilateral action. Is Japan launched an aggressive behavior, they created "out island" farce, trying to turn the so-called Diaoyu Island "nationalization". The Chinese side was forced to respond.
Js: you should use this to prove the legality of designated sea air defense identification zone.
Ambassador: designated air defense identification zone is an international common practice.
Js: but to some extent, both sides must back from their positions.
Ambassador: designated sea air defense identification zone are you talking about questions?
Js: I mean the wider sense.
Ambassador: it should be noted that Japan has been in the area as early as 45 years ago designated air defense identification zone. In the past 45 years, they continue to expand the scope of air defense identification zone, or even to only 130 kilometers from China's airspace.
Js: I want to invite one guest qiaozhi·pake (United Kingdom the FT's political editor) by adding that he would like to ask you a question. George, you've been listening.
George: listen very attentively. Mr Ambassador, I fully understand that bitter history between China and Japan, as well as your anger over Abe's visits to the Yasukuni Shrine. But if you compare Japan's military prowess, China has far more than Japan. Do you still think China faces Japan's military a threat?
Ambassador Liu: you're talking about is a series of numbers, including military spending. But you ignore the fact that Japan is on the rise in military spending. The next 5 years, Japan's military spending will increase by 5%. Currently Japan's military spending has reached all-time high for 18 years, this is one. Second, military spending is an important factor in a country's military power, but more important is to look at a country's defense policy, look at its history. United States defense budget 4 times times more than China, defense spending per capita is 30 times of China. Even if the United Kingdom 9 times times the per capita military spending in China. But China is a peace-loving country. If you compare the history of Sino-Japanese, would know that Japan and China are completely different.
George: do you think that Japan remains a threat?
Ambassador: Historically, China has on many occasions had been invaded. During the first world war, Japan imposed on many of China's unequal treaties. During World War II, as Japan launched wars of aggression against China, the Chinese people suffered heavy casualties and damage.
Js: you think that Japan continues to pose a military threat to China?
Ambassador Liu: sure. Japan Government's attitude toward history, as Japan's leaders pay tribute to war criminals and attempts to modify the Constitution. We cannot help worry.
Js: here we connect in New Delhi of India reporter Jodie.
Jodie: Mr Ambassador, good morning.
Jody: good dialogue with you on the BBC show. I am a New Delhi India reporter. In India, we believe that China is a great country with a long history. China will soon become the world's largest economy. But why China and including India, neighboring countries have so many disputes? Sino-Indian dispute dates back to India before independence, the two sides disagreeing on a 4,000-kilometer-long section of border. You said China is a peace-loving nation, but just a few months ago, Chinese troops crossed the line of actual control into India territory, where he stayed for 3 weeks. This is why?
Ambassador Liu: I would like to stress is that we hope that the development of good-neighbourly relations with all its neighbours. On the issue of border disputes, a description is, China has suffered imperialist aggression. Many border issues between China and some of its neighbors are left behind by foreign colonizers. But we are sincerely willing to dispute-related parties, including India, sit down and engage in serious negotiations. I was pleased to see China and India have achieved positive progress in the negotiations on border issues.
Jodie: Mr Ambassador, in what agreement had been reached on settling the border issue in 2005. But a few years later, China unilaterally withdrew from the agreement. At present there is no understanding on the border issue between the two countries.
Ambassador: I do not agree with your statement. Today I mainly talk about Sino-Japanese relations. When it comes to disputes, you can not only listen to one side. We are India's moves are also dissatisfied with the. But I do not want to debate this issue with you today. I would like to stress is that we sincerely hope that the two sides reach a negotiated solution.
Js: there, Ambassador, thank you for this episode.
Ambassador: Goodbye.
(Original title: jiepi Abe's restoration of militarism, Ambassador in London attempted to alert)
中新网1月7日电 据外交部网站消息，2014年1月5日，驻英国大使刘晓明接受英国BBC国际广播电台《周末》(Weekend)节目主持人朱利安(Julian Worricker)直播专访，阐述中方在日本侵略历史、钓鱼岛主权等问题上的严正立场，全面、深入揭批安倍复辟军国主义企图，呼吁国际社会对此保持高度警惕。采访实录如下：
朱利安：日本首相安倍晋三参拜靖国神社的理由遭到中国政府的驳斥。中国驻英国大使刘晓明呼吁英国和国际社会对日本军国主义复辟保持高度警惕。今天，刘大使来到了我们的演播室。大使先生，早上好。
刘大使：早上好。
朱利安：中方对安倍参拜靖国神社的具体关切是什么？
刘大使：我们对安倍参拜靖国神社表示严重关切。靖国神社一直是日本军国主义对外发动侵略战争和殖民统治的精神工具和象征，至今仍供奉着包括东条英机在内的14名甲级战犯。东条英机不仅对中国发起战争，而且偷袭珍珠港，对美国、英国和荷兰开战。这是一个双手沾满了数百万中国人民鲜血的战犯。
朱利安：我理解中国人民为何对安倍参拜如此愤怒。但这归根到底不是日本的内政吗？
刘大使：这当然不是日本的内政问题。我们关注的不仅是日本领导人如何对待这些战犯和历史，更关注他们对未来的态度。
朱利安：你认为日本政府是什么态度？
刘大使：日本领导人向战犯致敬，显示他们对其侵略和殖民统治历史毫无忏悔之意。日本副首相麻生太郎甚至扬言“日本可以学习纳粹德国修宪的做法”。安倍本人也鼓吹所谓“侵略未定论”。
朱利安：我想进一步探讨一下这个问题。中国也在不断加大军费开支，中国领导人表示还将继续加大军费投入。你们批评日本，这不是双重标准吗？
刘大使：我不同意你的看法。我愿谈谈中国的军费开支。中国是一个大国。中国的国土面积是日本的25倍，人口是日本的10倍，但日本的人均军费开支是中国的5倍。就国防费在GDP中的比重而言，日本与中国差不多。
朱利安：但中国将会加大军费投入，我想我们应该明确这一点。
刘大使：那是因为中国经济在不断增长，中国的国防任务十分繁重。正如我刚才所说，中国有幅员辽阔的国土需要保卫。我们有14个陆上邻国和7个海上邻国，拥有2.2万公里陆地边界线和3.2万公里海岸线。
朱利安：我想讨论一下中日在东海一些无人居住岛屿的争端问题。中日都表示拥有这些岛屿的主权。作为争端的一部分，中国单方面宣布在该地区划设防空识别区。日方不可避免地会将这种行为视为“侵略”。
刘大使：我们把这些岛屿称作钓鱼岛。钓鱼岛自古以来就是中国的领土。
朱利安：你知道日本对此有不同看法。
刘大使：他们会有不同看法，但我说的是事实。事实就是事实。1895年中日甲午战争后，钓鱼岛被日本非法侵占。根据第二次世界大战期间中、英、美三国首脑发表的《开罗宣言》，日本必须向中国归还所有窃取之领土，包括台湾及其周边岛屿，当然也包括钓鱼岛。上世纪50年代初，美国接管钓鱼岛。由于冷战的原因，美国未向中国移交钓鱼岛及其附属岛屿。因为美国需要日本。上世纪70年代，美国向日本移交钓鱼岛行政管辖权。但美国在钓鱼岛的主权问题上也保持中立，并未承认日本对钓鱼岛拥有主权。
朱利安：除了加剧本已紧张的争端外，你认为中方单方面划设防空识别区能达到什么目的？
刘大使：请让我把关于钓鱼岛的话说完。上世纪70年代中日实现关系正常化后，两国领导人达成谅解，同意将钓鱼岛问题先放一放，留待以后解决。1978年，中国领导人邓小平访问日本时曾被问到钓鱼岛的归属问题。邓小平回答说：这个问题我们同日本有争议，可以把它放一放，也许下一代人比我们更聪明些，会找到实际解决的方法。因此两国领导人决定搁置争议。但近年来，日方多次单方面采访行动。是日本发起了挑衅性的行为，他们制造了“购岛”闹剧，企图将钓鱼岛进行所谓“国有化”。中方被迫对此做出反应。
朱利安：你们用这来证明划设东海防空识别区的合法性。
刘大使：划设防空识别区是国际通行的做法。
朱利安：但在某种程度上，双方都必须从各自的立场上后退。
刘大使：你说的是划设东海防空识别区问题吗？
朱利安：我指的是更广泛意义上的。
刘大使：应当指出，日本早在45年前就已在该地区划设防空识别区。过去45年里，他们不断扩大防空识别区范围，甚至划到离中国领空仅有130公里。
朱利安：我想邀请一位节目嘉宾乔治·帕克(英国《金融时报》政治编辑)加入，他想问你一个问题。乔治，你一直在认真倾听。
乔治：非常认真地听。大使先生，我完全理解中日之间那段痛苦的历史，以及你对安倍参拜靖国神社的愤怒。但如果对比一下中日的军事实力，中国已远远超过日本。你仍然认为中国面临日本的军事威胁吗？
刘大使：你说的是包括军费开支在内的一系列数字。但你忽略了一个事实：日本也在增加军费开支。未来5年，日本的军费开支将增长5%。目前日本的军费开支已达18年来历史新高，这是其一。其二，军费开支是衡量一国军力的重要因素，但更重要的是看一个国家的国防政策，看它的历史。美国的国防预算比中国多4倍，人均国防开支是中国的30倍。即便英国的人均军费开支也是中国的9倍。但中国是一个爱好和平的国家。如果你对比一下中日的历史，就会知道日本与中国完全不同。
乔治：你是否认为日本仍是威胁？
刘大使：历史上，中国曾多次遭到侵略。第一次世界大战期间，日本强加给中国许多不平等条约。二战期间，由于日本发动的侵华战争，中国人民伤亡和损失惨重。
朱利安：你认为日本仍然对中国构成军事威胁？
刘大使：当然。因为日本政府对待历史的态度，因为日本领导人仍然向战犯表示敬意并且企图修改和平宪法。这些不能不使我们感到担忧。
朱利安：下面我们连线在新德里的印度记者乔蒂。
乔蒂：大使先生，早上好。
乔蒂：很高兴在BBC节目里与你对话。我是一名驻新德里的印度记者。在印度，我们认为中国是一个有着悠久历史文明的伟大国家。中国很快就会成为世界第一大经济体。但为什么中国与包括印度在内的邻国有着如此多的争端？中印争端的历史可以追溯到印度独立之前，双方对一段长达4000公里的边境线存在不同看法。你刚才说中国是一个爱好和平的国家，但就在几个月前，中国军队越过实际控制线进入印度领土，并在那里停留了3周时间。这是为什么？
刘大使：我想强调的是，我们希望与所有邻国发展睦邻友好关系。关于边界争端问题，需要说明的是，中国曾长期遭受帝国主义列强侵略。中国与一些邻国的边界问题许多都是外国殖民者遗留下来的。但我们真诚地愿意与争议有关各方，包括印度，坐下来进行认真的谈判。我高兴地看到中印关于边界问题的谈判取得了积极进展。
乔蒂：大使先生，中印曾在2005年就解决边界问题达成过协议。但几年后，中国单方面退出该协议。目前两国之间在边界问题上不存在谅解。
刘大使：我不同意你的说法。我今天主要是谈中日关系问题。说到争端，你不能只听一面之词。我们对印度方面的一些举动也是不满的。但今天我不想与你争论这个问题。我想强调的是，我们真诚希望双方通过谈判找到解决办法。
朱利安：大使先生，非常感谢你参加本期节目。
刘大使：再见。
(原标题：驻英大使揭批安倍复辟军国主义企图 吁保持警惕)
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