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The author:(作者)delvpublished in(发表于) 2014/1/20 9:14:32 Guangdong on behalf of civil service pay rise
Lin Xiaozhao
At a time when Beijing outgoing civil servants ready to pay, immediately echoed in Shenzhen in the South. Yesterday, 12 second meeting in Shenzhen, Guangdong delegation's discussion, delegates called on the civil service pay rise.
Competition for civil servants on the one hand the "iron rice bowl" competition is growing in intensity, on the other, constantly complaining about low income and poor welfare of serving civil servants, salary increase calls for more and more, how to explain this paradox?
High pressure of low wages?
When discussing the Guangdong provincial high people's Court work report this year, Guangdong provincial people's Congress representatives, Shenzhen General Chamber of Commerce Executive Vice President Hui Lin said because of their own unit is next to the Court, knows more about how hard this team by the Court. "I got home from work late, sometimes eight or nine point light is still on the Court, to see how hard they. ”
"The courts are really not easy, their wages are not high. "Hui Lin said, in foreign countries, judges ' salaries is quite high, so actively shoulder social responsibilities. "Our judges at the administrative level, Deputy Department, branch, base pay was around 10,000 yuan. ”
Lawyers representative Zhang Lijie is felt: "judges in Shenzhen have serious staff wastage problem. I know a primary judge, was a Vice President, said many female judges because they are too tired, go home and there is no time to worry about the children. ”
Zhang Lijie said, in recent years resigned from the Shenzhen intermediate people's Court judges more and more, so a lot of people quit being a lawyer, earning is many times the judges.
Representatives of the Guangdong provincial people's Congress, the Shenzhen Municipal Government investment project appraisal Center senior engineer Liu Lin said at the meeting with respect, should be able to give civil servants a pay rise. Liu Lin said in an interview with a reporter, not only is the Court team, all the civil servants in Shenzhen are very hard, workload and work pressure are large.
Huangguang in Shenzhen, Guangdong provincial people's Congress representative, industrial company limited Chairman Zhuang Chuangyu said, from the civil service to both houses of the treatment of troops is an urgent need to reform things, hope that Shenzhen would high salary as the guiding ideology, started work in this area as soon as possible.
Indeed, not only is Shenzhen, "eight rules" file under the background of increasingly strict about discipline in the civil service, in early 2014, junior civil servants spit Groove messages appear from time to time, the "civil service salary increase" voices are getting higher and higher. Recently emerged that Beijing salary of civil servants has been poised, is being carried out in various ways in various districts of Beijing municipality, some "nature of case" to "explicit subsidy", which will directly affect the level of civil servants ' pension payment. But officials have yet to have a clear response.
Explanation why the representative salary
On civil service pay rise proposal, Liu Lin told the China business news and other media interviews, questioned responded to reporters, one by one.
Liu Lin told this, Shenzhen civil servants ' salaries haven't changed six or seven years, coupled with inflation, all the pressure is very big.
Larger due to comparison with the outside world. "Five or ten years ago on the calculation of income for the civil service, are now lower, because people move, prices move, we have been in storage. ”
"This years corporate income growth is very large. Average annual wage of about eighty thousand or ninety thousand a position, and now, with the bonuses are more than 300,000. Enterprise engineer level in five hundred thousand or six hundred thousand is normal. "Liu Lin says, his job to a company are now four to five times.
In that case, why don't you just print solutions, "the sea" a shot? When challenged by reporters asking, Liu Lin said they are about 50 years old, and then again to the enterprise, means that you're so many years with low wages, retirement does not enjoy better within the system of retirement benefits. "Didn't get earlier, never got back. ”
This lies at the core is the problem. Two-track system due to old-age pension, pensions for civil servants, personnel in institutions is much higher than the corporate officers has been the focus of public attention.
At the end of the National Conference on human resources and social security work, human Social Affairs Minister Yin Weimin said: "advancing the reform of endowment insurance system, solve ' poor treatment of dual-track '' '. "At present, the society in conjunction with the national development and Reform Commission, the Ministry of finance and other departments responsible for developing design scheme relating to old-age pension reform top of" unification ", national co-ordination of basic old-age pension, retirement age adjustment, a number of major issues, is a package of projects.
In this regard, Liu Lin believes that people who work in business, higher income than when on duty, which is equivalent to cash paid in advance, while civil servants will be discounted until after his retirement. "Enterprises with high wages, low pension upon retirement, but you discount the real income is much higher than civil servants. So don't mislead people, how tall are you currently employed wage, why don't you say? ”
If civil servants ' salaries are low, why are there still so many people out civil service exam? In this regard, Liu Lin answers, applicants who are graduates, many companies are reluctant to recruit inexperienced graduates, graduates can sit for the civil service.
"The civil service is relatively more stable work. And maybe in the beginning of the civil service starting salary is higher than that of enterprises, but the back so quickly. ”
Liu Lin believes that civil service pay should set a standard, at least up to secondary level, and then adjusted according to the price increases every year.
"I agree with you that, in developed countries, most intelligent people to the business to make money, it should be done on the civil service, the situation in our country will be achieved in the future. "Liu Lin said that at present China is still in the transition phase, this phase will tackle the current solution to the problem. China business news
(Original title: Guangdong people's Congress recessed civil servants "pay much less stress")
林小昭
就在北京传出公务员蓄势涨薪之时，南方的深圳立刻遥相呼应。昨日，在广东省十二届人大二次会议上深圳代表团的讨论中，多位代表呼吁给公务员加薪。
一方面是争夺公务员“铁饭碗”竞争越来越激烈；另一方面，在职公务员不断抱怨收入低、福利差，涨薪呼声越来越多，这一悖论该如何解释？
工资低压力大？
在讨论今年广东省高院的工作报告时，广东省人大代表、深圳商业联合会执行副会长林慧表示，由于自己单位就在法院旁边，对法院队伍的辛苦程度了解比较多。“我下班时间比较晚，有时八九点法院灯还亮着，能看得出他们的辛苦程度。”
“法院的人真不容易，他们工资真不高。”林慧说，在国外，法官的工资相当高，所以很积极地承担社会责任。“我们的法官按行政级别，副处、处级，基本工资也就一万元左右。”
律师界女代表张丽杰也有感而发：“深圳的法官队伍有很严重的人员流失问题。我认识一个基层法官，是个副院长，说很多女法官因为太累了，回家没有时间管孩子。”
张丽杰说，这几年从深圳中院辞职的法官越来越多，所以很多人辞职出来做律师，挣的钱是法官的很多倍。
广东省人大代表、深圳市政府投资项目评审中心高级工程师刘林在会上直言，应该尽快给公务员涨工资。刘林在接受记者采访时表示，不仅是法院队伍，所有深圳公务员队伍都很辛苦，工作量和工作压力都很大。
广东省人大代表、深圳市皇岗实业股份有限公司董事长庄创裕说，从公务员到两院队伍的待遇问题是一件迫在眉睫需要改革的事情，希望深圳能以高薪养廉为指导思想，尽快启动这方面的工作。
实际上，不仅是深圳，在“八项规定”等文件对公务员的纪律约束越来越严格的背景下，2014年初，不时有基层公务员吐槽的消息出现，“公务员涨薪”的呼声也越来越高。日前有消息称北京公务员涨薪已经蓄势待发，北京市各区正在通过不同方式，将一些“暗补”变为“明补”，而这将直接影响公务员的退休金发放水平。不过对此官方尚未有明确回应。
代表释疑为何涨薪
就公务员涨薪的提议，刘林在接受《第一财经日报》等媒体采访时，一一对记者的质疑给予了回应。
刘林告诉本报，深圳公务员工资六七年都没变，加上通胀，大家生活压力非常大。
更大的原因来自与外界的比较。“五年、十年前公务员收入算中上，现在是中下，因为别人在动，物价在动，我们一直没动。”
“这几年企业员工收入增长非常大。原来一个职位年平均工资大概八九万，现在加上奖金有三十多万。企业里工程师一级别的五六十万很正常。”刘林说，自己的职位到企业工作将是现在的四到五倍。
既然如此，为何不干脆解印而去，“下海”一搏？面对记者的追问，刘林说，自己快五十岁了，这时再到企业，意味着自己这么多年拿低工资，退休后却不能享受体制内较好的退休待遇。“等于前面没拿到，后面的也没拿到。”
这也正是问题核心所在。由于养老双轨制，公务员、事业单位人员的退休金比企业人员高很多一直是社会舆论关注的焦点。
在去年底的全国人力资源和社会保障工作会议上，人社部部长尹蔚民表示：“正在推进机关事业单位养老保险制度改革，着力解决‘双轨制’‘待遇差’问题。”目前，由人社部会同发改委、财政部等部门负责制定的养老改革顶层设计方案涉及养老“并轨”、基础养老金全国统筹、退休年龄调整等多项重大问题，是一项一揽子工程。
对此，刘林认为，在企业工作的人，在岗时收入比较高，这相当于提前兑现了报酬，而公务员是退休之后才折现。“在企业拿高工资，退休时拿低退休金，但你先折现了，实际收入比公务员高很多。所以不要老是误导人，你在职时工资多高啊，你为啥不说？”
如果公务员工资低，为什么还有那么多人挤破头考公务员？对此，刘林回答，报考人多是因为大学生就业难，很多企业不愿意招没经验的应届生，公务员应届生都可以报考。
“公务员相对是比较稳定的工作。而且公务员刚开始可能起薪比企业高，但企业后面提得特别快。”
刘林认为，公务员薪酬要定一个标准，至少要提高到中等以上程度，再根据每年的物价上涨进行调整。
“我也同意你们说的，就是在发达国家，最聪明的人都到企业挣钱去了，中上才去做公务员，这种形势将来在我国也会实现。”刘林说，目前我国还处于过渡阶段，这个阶段就要解决好当前该解决的问题。第一财经日报
(原标题：广东人大代表吐槽公务员“工资少压力大”)
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