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published in(发表于) 2014/2/11 10:01:52
Dialog Fang: If the wife, academic fraud, I have avoided the rights

Dialog Fang: if wife academic fraud, I'm avoiding right | | academic fraud Fang zhouzi | worth fighting _ news

Beijing authorities wide nets, February 9 (reporter Shen Jingwen Trainee journalist Zheng Danwei) evening peak, according to voice of the news reports on Chinese Internet users, "Fang" is the name of a minor note. Like he said, Fang is the kind of fellow that we most need, the hip, not selling anyone's face; people who hate him call him "rogue". Experience with Yong-Hao Luo, Muzi Mei, Han Han, who's mouth after the battle, in September last year, like Fang of new rivals, on the question of safety of transgenic technology, the two battle has escalated into a legal battle.


However, Fang, he can look at his wife's like look like paper?


In 2013, the master of LAU chrysanthemums false papers, fudezhi Institute of Botany, Chinese Academy of Sciences researcher accused the age of 60. Which begins in 2011, the storm has not subsided, classical net of true "according to LAU chrysanthemums 80% papers for plagiarism", under the watchful eye of countless hopes place righteousness above family loyalty fraud Fang zhouzi, he chose to defend for his wife. Starting from this day, the fighting every day to face the same problem: you fake, why the double standard?


Reporter: I want to talk to you a hypothetical, if she's not your lover, put her academic achievements in front of you, you can pick the problem?


Fang: to pick out what criteria are used, she is mainly referencing issues, later in the paper there are 80 articles to refer to other people's things, extracts used to do a rewrite. By today's standards this is inappropriate, but ten years ago, there is no such requirement, when you use someone else's stuff, as long as the citations can be, we cannot say that with the current standard of students at that time standard.


Reporter: in your experience in academic fraud, and actually has more flexible capacity to apply this standard, in other words, when this criterion is applied to different people will have some differences.


Fang: there will be, so they keep saying I'm selective fraud have always been selective fraud, so what am I supposed to care? I'm just an amateur trying to do. I, of course, refers to looking for things that I don't think of the more serious, or I find interesting, interested, they say you don't beat your wife, so you are selective on counterfeiting, a double standard. First of all, I don't think your wife's worth fighting, similar to what says is an academic paper has not been published, it is not that we ever even mean it is false, then I have the right to avoid them.


Fang said that the petition urges the Chinese Academy of social sciences to investigate LAU chrysanthemums paper 156 people, have been called off. He was full of apologies to his wife.


Fang: reveal some, hurt to the family, this is the one thing that I feel more guilty, they attack me, I don't care, but attacking my family, or even attack my children, I was afraid to get them, and they can live a peaceful life.


Switched from a science writer who only dabbled in corruption, Fang's life is bound to be hilarious. In the eyes of onlookers, the past year, still the same Fang Fang zhouzi, frequently shot, apology. For clients, this year, what he does? "Fraud fighters" to "go warriors", once the poets how to position itself?


Fang's life is bound to be busy, in addition to shooting, there is warmth.


Fang: including dining out, sit on the girl they said teachers come on, come on.


Were scolded, threatened, or even hammer, Fang dunshou initially gave her in the next round. For a sensitive economic issue, really sure of his answer in full.


Fang: there is no legendary bought a 4 million Chinese Yuan House, based on my income which is normal practice, why would they think I was a poor man. My rates are so high, and royalties are not low, I may now be one of China's biggest science writer.


30 years ago, Fang was home first place in the Chinese college entrance only. He discarded the weibo signature, remains his poem, "Please convey this to put out the fire until all desperate screaming solidified lie next to me". He doesn't like "paranoid," the word, but he and others have too much different.


Reporter: If Fang at the moment to pick out ten years ago, 20 years ahead of Zhou's writings can pick out?


Fang: pick up, don't say I can't carry out their opposition to my pick wasn't singled out.


Journalist: papers outside us? You are a person who makes mistakes do you think?


Fang: make mistakes, of course, bound to make a mistake, can also be found error, error correction.


Fang said that the teenager, his favorite poem was du Fu's "two Orioles Cui Liu Ming, party of White egrets surge up the blue sky" was clear and everlasting. He lives at the moment, far from poems of leisure.


(Original title: dialogue Fang: don't think wife deserve to be made)

(Edit: SN064)
February 09, 2014 China broadcast network
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对话方舟子:若老婆学术造假 我有回避权利|方舟子|学术造假|值得打_新闻资讯

  央广网北京2月9日消息 (记者沈静文 实习记者郑丹炜)据中国之声《新闻晚高峰》报道,对中国网民来说,“方舟子”是一个无需注解的名字。喜欢他的人说,方舟子是我们最需要的那种同胞,直来直去,不卖任何人的面子;讨厌他的人则直呼他“流氓”。经历了与罗永浩、木子美、韩寒等人的嘴仗后,去年9月起,崔永元成了方舟子的新对手,就转基因技术的安全性问题,两人的观点之争已经升级为法律纠纷。


  但是,方舟子,他能像审视崔永元一样审视他妻子的论文吗?


  2013年,因指刘菊花硕士论文造假,60岁的中国科学院植物研究所研究员付德志成为被告。这场始于2011年的风波至今没有平息,有网文言之凿凿“据分析,刘菊花论文80%为抄袭”,在无数寄望方舟子大义灭亲打假的注视下,他选择为妻子辩护。也正是从这天开始,这位打假者每天都要面对同样的问题:你打假为什么有双重标准?


  记者:我想跟您做一个假设,如果她不是您的爱人,把她的学术成果放到您的面前,您能挑出问题吗?


  方舟子:要挑的话看用什么标准,她主要是引用的问题,那篇论文后面也有80篇文献拿去引用别人的东西,摘录下来就不做改写了。按现在的标准这是不妥的,但是在十年前是没有这些要求的,那个时候大家觉得用别人的东西只要注明出处就可以了,不能说用现在的标准来看当时的学生的标准。


  记者:以您在学术打假这方面的经验,实际上你已经具备了比较灵活的去运用这个标准的能力,也就是说在应用到不同人身上的时候这个尺度是会有一些差别的。


  方舟子:是会有,所以他们一直说我选择性打假,本来就是应该选择性的打假,那么多我怎么可能什么事都管?我只是业余的尽力在做。我当然指的是找那些我认为比较严重,或者我觉得有意思的、感兴趣的,他们老说你不去打你老婆的假,所以你就是选择性的打假,是双重标准。首先我不认为老婆的假值得打,类似的什么没发表的说是学术论文,这个我们从来是不打的,即使是说真的是假的话,那么我也有回避的权利。


  方舟子说,联署敦促社科院调查刘菊花论文的156人,大都被他打过假。他因此对妻子满怀歉意。


  方舟子:揭露了一些人,因此连累到家人,这是我觉得比较内疚的一件事,他们攻击我,我无所谓,但是攻击我的家人、甚至攻击我的小孩,我怕连累了他们,他们本来可以过比较安宁的生活。


  从一名单纯的科普作家转而涉足学术腐败,方舟子的人生注定是热闹的。旁观人的眼中,过去一年,方舟子还是那个方舟子,频频出手,不依不饶。对于当事人,这一年,他过得又怎么样呢?从“打假斗士”到“挺转斗士”,曾经的诗人如何给自己定位?


  方舟子的人生注定是热闹的,除了打打杀杀,也有温暖。


  方舟子:包括在餐馆吃饭,坐到他们那个女孩起来说方老师加油、加油。


  被骂过,被威胁过,甚至被锤子砸过,方舟子仍蹲守在最初给自己划下的圆里。对于敏感的经济问题,他的回答底气十足。


  方舟子:没有好像传说中的买了一栋400万人民币的房子,按我的收入这是很正常的做法,为什么他们觉得我应该是个穷人。我稿酬那么高,版税也不低,我现在可能是全中国销量最大的一个科普作家。


  三十年前的方舟子曾是家乡的高考语文单科第一名。在他已弃用的新浪微博签名中,仍然是他的诗,“请传递这一把火直到百年之后我所有绝望的嘶叫凝固”。他不喜欢“偏执”这个词儿,但他又与别人有着太多不同。


  记者:如果让此刻的方舟子去挑十年前、二十年前方舟子的刺儿能挑出来吗?


  方舟子:挑不出来的,不要说我本人挑不出来,他们那些反对我的去挑也没挑出来啊。


  记者:论文之外呢?您是一个不犯错误的人吗您觉得?


  方舟子:犯错误当然肯定会犯,也会被发现错误,一发现错误赶快就更正。


  方舟子说,少年时,自己最喜欢的诗句是杜甫的“两个黄鹂鸣翠柳,一行白鹭上青天”,天朗气清,山高水长。而此刻他的生活,远没有诗的闲适。


(原标题:对话方舟子:不认为老婆之假值得打)


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