Wang mengshu s West high-speed rail will lose on the proposed merger of iron rail | yellow | high-speed rail _ news
Wang mengshu. Information chart "Iron now total about 3 trillion profits can also Bank on interest rates. In fact, railway development will drive the country's economic development, and waits until the entire network will be built to make money. ”
Legal evening news (reporter Du Wenwen) railway company in China will rise after getting tickets pricing right? iron total current debt status? recently, with the above problem, the legal evening news reporter on the national people's Congress, China railway group, Deputy Chief Engineer, Deputy Chief Engineer Wang mengshu conducted an interview with the China railway tunnel group.
Wang mengshu, outside of small cargo, currently, iron will not in General for passenger and heavy freight prices. Referring to "Western high-speed trains will lose a" controversial topics, Wang mengshu gives his answer: money.
About pricing
Small parts shipping based on price
By night: total high iron rail fare pricing right, in what way? is rose season, low season goes down?
Wang mengshu: is a national arterial railway, high-speed rail passenger and freight transport.
For the passenger, price stability is very important, this involves many aspects, booked tickets will not go on changing, equivalent of a welfare service, the loss is a loss, profit in the profit. This part cannot be said to be wholly in accordance with the market-oriented, flow much more to drive, if less flow you can't stop, you can't let the passenger at the station, found few people without a car.
For freight, heavy duty material cannot just price, such as ore, coal, and so on. Price hike supplies all over the country to rise, steel and iron ore going up are amazing.
Now will be free to price, such as online shopping, small freight by rail transport. The freight according to the price of this little part, but requires both sides to discuss the rise much, nor iron-total unilateral decisions. In General, at present is for the others (tickets) are fixed, is the small price of shipping will be free.
By night: after the own-price train tickets would better buy some? what do you think of in order to put an end to cattle and tickets software?
Wang mengshu: or can be purchased and used several methods, well get tickets and fare that's OK. (Buy tickets) involving railway workers, had colluded with cattle, also after we caught you're welcome. Now there is a problem, such as Spring Festival, all in order to increase the chance of getting a ticket, buy several, and this needs to be improved.
High-speed rail losses?
High-speed rail in General and still make money
By night: our national high-speed rail are still at a loss?
Wang mengshu: loss no loss in stages, sometimes months profit loss a few months under overall is profitable.
By night: total currently still working on recovery of iron rail of 350 kilometers per hour?
Wang mengshu: 350 is rated speeds, but as people eat eight full, run 300 kilometers, air resistance coefficient of 80%. Such as Beijing to Shanghai high-speed rail, acceptance rate was 385, but in fact only ran 300 was due to the security issues, economic issues and component life and other aspects of the cause of the problem.
In some on line is not particularly important, if under 250 built, the best economic speed is running to 200, air resistance coefficient in 30%, relatively cheap operating costs, ticket prices are relatively cheap.
Real speed increase does not depend on this, such as our outbound on the details of the time to speed up the pit stop, the driver's level also needs to be improved.
West Rail
Refuting "West Rail loses money" speech
By night: total debt how much iron? total profits of iron is also owed the Bank's interest enough? iron always wants the nation to its debt relief do?
Wang mengshu: now at around 3 trillion debt. Debt is down on the one hand, on the one hand new railways and a loan from the Bank. Iron always consists of railway development was working for a Bank, now total profits of iron can still Bank on interest rates.
In 2013, we don't consider railroads, but mainly to operating money to repay. National industry as a whole as a result of decline, steel, coal, machine, material, many industries will not work.
On debt relief, iron is not always the right now. But before loan interest at around 6%-10%, is now around 4%, had less interest. The past, interest is only 180 billion per year, 180,000,000,001 railways came.
Many people say that China's current economic collapse is totally wrong, we are climbing the most difficult period. During the past 15 to 20 years, waits until the entire network will be built to make money.
In fact, railway development will drive the country's economic development. Drop that in recent years, ready China very much.
By night: the railway towards the West is currently a very hot topic, but the idea that West Rail will most likely be large losses, what do you think about it?
Wang mengshu: no, it will make money. West Rail's main freight, freight the most profitable, a cargo car affects three trains.
The Western region of Xinjiang, Tibet, Qinghai lands together accounted for one-third of the land of our country, with a population of less than 30 million. Doesn't mean to develop railways in the West, no water and no. This time, I have a motion is the West route scheme to open water water supply project in Xinjiang, into an oasis of Xinjiang.
On the North and South merged
Proposed merger will be constructed of iron and iron
By night: before a report that iron always set up a Bank, the matter has there been any progress?
Wang mengshu: banks now use this thing, build a bank will also gain a lot of staff, for many reasons, not to mention now.
By night: what do you think of the "South-North" merge?
Wang mengshu: is definitely a good thing, South-North before at home and abroad are "fighting", now after the merger very well and without Alliance bid. We used to joke that "domestic tender dreads counterparts, foreign tender dreads the villagers."
Railway construction in iron, is also in the process, mutual top prices. Congress last year I propose merging iron and railway construction in. As I said, the stock has gone up, how is this thing. Next step enterprises to clean up merge philosophy is there, one after another.
Yan-da tunnel
Budget is 260 billion yuan up to ten years back
By night: Yantai to Dalian how long it can be back to the cross harbour tunnel?
Wang mengshu: we are now talking about strengthening the building of tunnels along the coast from the straight-line distance is about 170 km from Yantai to Dalian, 6-8 hours by boat, railway to bypass 1500km, highway to bypass 1600km. Yantai to Dalian this 125 km long tunnel, the budget is 260 billion yuan, including interest, back up to ten years, definitely make money.
By night: you have submitted to the national people's Congress this year on speeding up the two recommendations of the qiongzhou Straits tunnel, what to consider?
Wang mengshu: qiongzhou strait crossing project is an important part of coastal railway. This project involves the energy, science and technology, national defense and other areas. About what is a freeway tunnel had argued, building roads, passing is going to have to use the bridge, bridge programme offer is more than 120 billion, span does not fall below 1200 metres, height of not less than 73 meters, and bad suspension bridge with a fried, military considerations are not allowed, and cost is twice times the height of the tunnel and their life expectancy is 20. Cross Harbour Tunnel programme overall budget of 50 billion yuan, life of up to hundred years. In terms of technology, capital, military strategy, construction of the cross harbour tunnel is a more appropriate solution.
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王梦恕驳西部修高铁会亏论 建议中铁中铁建合并|黄牛|高铁_新闻资讯
王梦恕。资料图 “现在铁总债务3万亿左右，盈利能够还上银行的利息。实际上，铁路发展能带动整个国家的经济发展，等到整个路网建成了就会赚钱。”
法制晚报讯(记者杜雯雯)中国铁路总公司在取得高铁票价自主定价权后会不会涨价?铁总目前的债务状况如何?近日，带着上述问题，《法制晚报》记者对全国人大代表、中国中铁副总工程师、中铁隧道集团副总工程师王梦恕进行了专访。
王梦恕表示，目前除了小件货运外，铁总对于客运和重载货运均不会涨价。在谈及“西部修建高铁会亏损”的争议话题时，王梦恕给出了自己的解答：会赚钱的。
谈自主定价
小零件货运可以根据情况涨价
法晚：铁总获得高铁票价自主定价权后，会以什么样的方式呈现?是不是旺季涨，淡季降?
王梦恕：铁路是国家大动脉，高铁也分客运和货运。
对客流来说，票价稳定很重要，这里面牵扯到很多方面，票定好了不会随意更改，相当于是个福利事业，该亏损就亏损，该盈利就盈利。这部分不能说完全按照市场化来，人流量多了当然多开车次，如果客流少你也不能停，你不能让乘客到了车站发现人少就没车。
对货运而言，重载物资更不能随便涨价，比如拉矿石、拉煤炭等等。一涨价全国各种物资都要涨，钢铁矿石一涨那就不得了。
现在可以自主涨价的，比如网上买东西，小件货运经过高铁运输等。这个小零件的货运可以根据情况涨价，但涨多少也需要双方讨论，也不是铁总单方面决定。总的来说，目前的打算就是其他的(票价)都不动，就是小件货运可以自主涨价。
法晚：自主定价后，火车票是否会比现在好买一些?您觉得如何才能杜绝黄牛、抢票软件?
王梦恕：还是和以前一样几种方法都可以买，票好不好买与票价没关系。有些(票难买)情况牵扯到铁路上职工关系，内部有跟黄牛勾结，我们抓到以后也不客气。现在有个问题，比如春节，大家为了增加买到票的几率，一买就是好几张，这个需要改进。
高铁亏损吗?
高铁总体来说还是赚钱的
法晚：目前我们国家的高铁是否都还处于亏损状态?
王梦恕：亏损不亏损是阶段性的，有时候这几个月盈利，下几个月亏损，总体来说是赚钱的。
法晚：铁总目前是否还在研究恢复高铁350公里的时速?
王梦恕：350是额定速度，但就像人吃饭吃八分饱，跑300公里时，空气阻力系数达到80%。比如北京到上海的高铁，验收速度是385，但实际上只跑300，就是考虑到安全问题、经济问题和零件的寿命问题等多方面的原因。
在一些不是特别重要的线路上，若按照250修建，最好的经济速度是跑到200，空气阻力系数在30%，运营费相对便宜，票价也相对便宜。
其实真正的速度提高不是靠这个，比如我们在进站出站细节的时间上要加快，司机的水平也亟待提高。
西部修高铁
驳斥“西部修高铁会亏损”言论
法晚：目前铁总的债务有多少?铁总的盈利是否够还所欠银行的利息?铁总还希望国家给其减免债务吗?
王梦恕：现在在3万亿左右，得还债嘛。一方面还债在往下降，一方面修新铁路又在向银行贷款。铁总包括铁路发展都是给银行打工，现在铁总的盈利还是能够还上银行的利息。
2013年时，我们考虑先不修铁路，而是以运营赚钱还债为主。结果造成当时国家整个工业的下滑，钢铁、煤炭、机器加工、材料工厂很多行业都不行。
就减免债务而言，现在铁总没有这样的权利。不过以前贷款利息在6%-10%左右，现在是4%左右，利息少了。过去，每年仅利息就是1800亿，1800亿一条铁路都出来了。
很多人说的中国现在经济崩溃完全是错误的，我们正在爬坡最困难的时期。也就是近15年到20年，等到整个路网建成了就会赚钱。
实际上，铁路发展能带动整个国家的经济发展。下滑也就是这几年，弄好以后中国就很厉害了。
法晚：铁路向西部倾斜是目前非常热的话题，不过有观点认为西部修高铁的话很有可能会大面积亏损，你怎么看?
王梦恕：不会，会赚钱的。西部修高铁最主要的是货运，其实货运最赚钱的，一列货运车影响三列客车。
西部地区的新疆、西藏、青海土地加起来占了我们国家三分之一的土地，人口却不到3000万。西部要发展没有铁路不行，没有水也不行。这次我有个议案，就是南水北调西线方案要开启，为新疆调水解决供水工程，把新疆变成绿洲。
谈南北车合并
建议将中铁、中铁建也合并
法晚：之前有报道称铁总要成立一家银行，目前此事有什么进展?
王梦恕：现在银行这个事情搁置了，建一个银行也会增加很多人员等，出于很多方面的考虑，现在不提了。
法晚：你怎么看待“南车北车”合并?
王梦恕：绝对是个好事，南车北车以前在国内国外都“打架”，现在合并以后非常好，不用拉关系招投标。以前我们开玩笑说，“国内投标怕见同行，国外投标怕见老乡”。
中铁、中铁建也是这个过程，互相顶互相压价。去年人大我就提出建议，把中铁、中铁建也合并了。我一说，这个股票就上涨了，说明大家还是认可这种东西。下一步大型企业要进行整顿合并，理念是有了，陆续要搞。
烟大海底隧道
预算是2600亿元最多十年回本
法晚：烟台到大连的海底隧道多长时间可以回本?
王梦恕：我们现在都在说要加强沿海隧道的修建，从烟台到大连的直线距离差不多是170公里，乘船6至8小时，铁路要多绕行1500km，高速公路要多绕行1600km。烟台到大连的这条隧道长125公里，预算是2600亿元，包括利息，回本最多十年，绝对赚钱。
法晚：您今年向全国人大提交了关于加快琼州海峡跨海隧道的两份建议，有什么考虑?
王梦恕：琼州海峡跨海通道工程是沿海铁路重要组成部分。这个工程涉及到能源、科技、国防等多领域。之前关于到底是修海底隧道还是高速公路有过争论，修公路的话，路过不去必须用桥，修桥当时方案报价是1200多亿，跨度不能低于1200米，高度不能少于73米，而且悬索桥一炸就坏，军事上考虑不允许，而且成本还是隧道的两倍高，寿命也就20年。海底隧道方案总体预算500亿元左右，寿命可达百年。无论从技术、资金、军事战略考虑，修建海底隧道都是更合适的方案。
文并摄/记者 杜雯雯
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