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published in(发表于) 2016/3/16 6:09:21
Bear kids stealing dad 25,000 yuan to buy swim equipment: do not come back ...,

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Bear kids stealing dad 25,000 yuan to buy swim equipment: do not come back ...-bear children, hand-IT information

Child with adult phone playing games, most parents feel commonplace things, however recently, haian County citizens in summer because it′s "little things" inexplicable "consumption" of 25,000 yuan, but he himself had no knowledge. "My son holding my cell phone to play games, and binds the PayPal account to buy game currency-diamonds, little 6, 998 Yuan. For five days, 25,000 is gone. "Summer love looked at a section of the consumer records.

Faux: children playing hand, secretly bought 25,000 yuan equipment

Old summer house libao town, haian town, and decorating business. Son, summer is 12 years old, in grade five. After the Spring Festival, old summer to spend some time at home with their children. Children and he took the old summer games, and download the tour started the shootout for all the software. The night of March 7, old summer pick up the phone while browsing the news, accidentally discovered a bank charge text messages, showing the original more than 26,000 yuan left more than 700 Yuan. Old summer after phone calls to customer service confirmed, the first thought is was stolen online bank.

But the next day, the old summer to counter print consumption records, see full two pages about hundreds of expense records. From March 3 to March 7, within 5 days, micro-payments every day, many of the old summer spending, the highest consumption was 998 Yuan, at least 6, total cost 25688 Yuan.

At this point, the old summer came up with children. After asking children, spent the son finally admitted that the money was his own, all to buy diamonds in the game increase equipment. Originally, the shootout is for all students to recommend to his son′s games, but have been unable to get on. In order to buy diamonds upgrade, he used his father′s micro-payments. After each paid, will receive deductions on a mobile phone reminders. In order not to let my father found their behavior, old summer son will promptly delete bank balance change reminder text messages until a message was found.

Tour companies: this is a normal transaction, no refund

Old Xia believes that children under 12 years of age, no knowledge about consumer behavior, and hand the company should refund the consumer. But the morning of 13th, reporter contacted the universal gun company, customer service personnel, as long as users are downloading games through normal channels, its consumption is considered normal in-game transactions and related fees are not refundable. "We need payment password is the recharging platform, players can complete your payment, that means they have complete permission to pay, they are minor operations, we cannot tell what is the other end of the phone in the operation. ”

Lawyer perspective

Cannot prove that the consumer was a child to complete

It′s hard to cost recovery

Jiangsu Qian Yuwen eye law firm lawyers, money to counsel, under the age of 16 are limited in capacity and person with limited civil capacity can only be carried out with age, intelligence and other corresponding civil activities. "Using his father′s cell phone to play games and paid 25,000 yuan, apparently with a 12 year old child′s age, intelligence does not adapt, but also is not a necessity, special sale contracts are so formed of ′ pending validity ′ contract, the contract only if the legal representative (guardian) upon ratification to be effective. "The lawyers said.

However, lawyers said, although legal support, but old summer wanted to recover this cost is pretty difficult, "need to provide proof of this consumption is done by children, after all, it is difficult to find convincing evidence to show that: the consumer is the child′s guardian not informed. ”


熊孩子偷老爸2万5千元买手游装备:追不回来了… - 熊孩子,手游 - IT资讯

孩子拿着大人的手机玩玩游戏,可能大多数家长觉得再寻常不过的小事了,然而近日,海安县市民夏先生因为这件“小事”莫名其妙被“消费”了2.5万元,自己却毫不知情。“儿子拿着我的手机玩游戏,然后用绑定的支付宝账户购买游戏币——钻石,少的6元,多的998元。五天,2.5万没了。”夏先生看着一条条消费记录心疼不已。

囧事:孩子玩手游,偷偷买了2.5万元装备

老夏家住海安县李堡镇,在外做装潢业务。儿子小夏今年12岁,上小学五年级。春节过后,老夏在家多待了些时日陪孩子。孩子便拿着老夏的手机玩游戏,并下载了手游软件《全民枪战》。3月7日晚,老夏拿起手机浏览新闻时,无意中发现一条银行扣费短信,上面显示原有的2.6万多元仅剩下700多元。老夏电话打到银行客服证实后,第一想到的就是网银被盗了。

但第二天,老夏到银行柜台打印消费记录时,看到满满两页纸有近百条支出记录。从3月3日到3月7日,5天时间内,老夏的微信支付每天都有很多笔消费支出,最高的消费是998元,最少的6元,总花费25688元。

此时,老夏想到了孩子。在询问孩子之后,儿子终于承认这些钱是自己花掉了,全部用来买游戏里的钻石增加装备。原来,《全民枪战》是同学推荐给儿子的游戏,但等级一直上不去。为了花钱买钻石升级,他就用了爸爸的微信支付。每次付费后,手机上就会收到扣费提醒。为了不让爸爸发现自己的行为,老夏儿子每次便会迅速删除银行余额变动提醒的短信,直到最后一条短信被发现。

手游公司:这是正常交易,不能退费

老夏认为,孩子不满12岁,自己对消费行为并不知情,手游公司应该退还消费。但13日上午,记者联系上《全民枪战》公司,客服人员表示,只要用户是通过正常渠道下载的游戏,其在游戏中的消费即被视为正常交易,相关费用是不能退还的。“我们的充值平台是需要支付密码的,玩家只要能够完成支付,那就意味着对方拥有完成支付的权限,至于是不是未成年人操作的,我们无法判断手机另一端是什么人在操作。”

律师观点

无法证明消费是孩子独立完成

想追回费用很难

江苏慧眼律师事务所钱玉文律师,钱律师认为,不满16周岁属于限制行为能力人,而限制民事行为能力人只能进行与其年龄、智力等相适应的民事活动。“用父亲的手机玩网游并花费2.5万元,这显然与一个12岁孩子的年龄、智力等不相适应,而且也不是孩子的生活必需行为,这样形成的买卖合同属于比较特殊的‘效力待定’合同,这种合同只有在法定代理人(监护人)的追认后才有效。”钱律师表示。

不过钱律师表示,尽管法律上支持,但老夏想要追回这笔费用还是相当困难的,“需要提供这笔消费是由孩子独立完成的证明,毕竟一般很难找到有力的证据来证明:这些消费是孩子完成的而监护人不知情。”






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