Career match-fixing people's "Lakes": controversy 20 years someone sits on mansion | False _ news
Title: controversial 20-"professional fake people," "wild world"
They are fresh to face anybody, probably while shopping and you pass by a stranger; they know legal rules and master the skills identified resources, expertise in claims, even if they are dark hero of fighting against the people as its opening, without taboo "Fame" in the first place.
Professional anti-counterfeiting Taskforce 20, some of them riding the vehicle, sitting on the mansion, it was ruthlessly eliminated, controversy is always accompanied. "Staged" Eve, Xinhua reporter approached the three occupation of match fixing, "old gun"-this group behind the "rivers and Lakes".
Jianghu: "people have grievances, grievances have Lakes"
In 1995, the 22-year-olds in Beijing Wang Lung Fu building, buying 12 pairs of fake Sony headphones, and the consumer protection law to receive compensation from path of career match-fixing--this is the beginning of private enforcement in China, "professional fighting man" Wang attention and quickly followed suit.
That was a belonging to "old gun" era, countless "Hai" to shopping malls across the country, the market, almost every major city has one or two iconic "professional fake people" often can see a dark side to be exposed in the media, well-known company into a "fraud."
At that time, Yang Liandi is original, Xuanwu District in Beijing is also a supermarket store manager; former public security police, the trade and Industry Bureau cadre Liu Dianlin has "xiahai" doing business, "Wang Hai phenomenon" effect, Liu Dianlin and Yang Liandi fighting career in Beijing and Tangshan, respectively.
Liu Dianlin came from Hebei to Beijing was more than 40 years old, 20 years old Wang Shi Li. A year later, Liu Dianlin fledgling, because they do not agree with the concept and mode of fighting against Wang, and "didn't want to be the General's soldiers is not a good soldier" and other complex reasons, and Wang go their separate ways.
Liu Dianlin pulled a bunch of people to form a Federation, "in the name of Wang against Wang." Yang Liandi said he had tried to fix the former apprentice of the cooperation agreement, but cracks already, it would seem difficult to back State.
"Wang is my teacher, as they grow older it also watered down, we still have some cooperation. He is magnanimous than before, for our industry to consider more. "After 20 years, Liu Dianlin said.
Fake people and businesses of "vendetta" also means. "Staged" before, is one of "big brother" level of Yang Liandi personally shot, to the famous Mall in Beijing selling expired cake claims. Yang Liandi said, the hypermarket is located in Chang an Street head office is the starting point of his match-fixing, he was "blacklisted" for a considerable amount of time, he could not even normal shopping head office, so the shop "special attention".
While Liu Dianlin for exposing violations added to the herbal drug and a herbal tea business enemies, but after several exchanges, manufacturers developed rapidly because of the thorough standardization, not only on both sides, "smiled vanquishes" Liu Dianlin is being employed as factory match consultant, served as a guest.
Rules: "do you have your rules, we also have our rules"
Lakes often have their own rules of conduct for professional fake people, opponents do not always like the gentle way to solve the problem.
"There was a fighting man, hired by fake objects in the bar at the entrance of the police station was seriously injured. "Wang Hai said, there is always a fake object" cost is not illegal. "
Liu Dianlin has more lakes on his partner's call--"blood brothers", in Guangzhou "unannounced" frauds being detected when human serum albumin, two of his brothers had been killed by each other.
"A fake toothpaste, we fuck with an iron stick by dozens of people beaten. 6 of us in the hospital emergency room, lying in a row, have a brothers rough swollen arms and legs. "Liu Dianlin admitted that because of his impulsive in the initial impact, resulting in a lot of danger and hurt a lot of" brothers ".
Shock's biggest cases occurred in 2003, on December 13 of that year, "private investigator" Huang Lirong was found in the candid camera, monitor, when owner TCM libraries in the forbidden city, was beaten to death body.
Blocked by more than 10 big guy asked "talk about", for "professional fighting man" were common.
"That risk is not controlled. "When it comes to fighting people subjected to violent attacks, Wang said that in order to protect themselves, he had some" rules ". "For example, some fruit stands, small shops are not enough, I would remind them, but not really ' playing '. "Wang said," the ' nasty bites rabbit. ' ”
But before the public ever took off his sunglasses, but Wang also used "public face", had been a soldier and other standards to recruit anti-counterfeiting staff, which has almost all fake companies hiring standards.
When a "professional fighting man" due to fake injuries, be held criminally responsible when other fake people will take a variety of "solidarity" action to "hold together for warmth".
In addition to facing the threat of cheating people, the "professional fake people" must also learn to deal with relations with the administrative law-enforcement departments, judicial departments. "We strictly follow legal procedures to complaints, if administrative enforcement authorities local protection, as, that we would be strongly against it. "Wang said such lawsuits each" professional fighting man "were played.
"Silence money" is the prevailing rule in line, in a private agreement with enterprise, fighting Enterprise bad behaviour will not be made public. "Foolproof, if companies do not change, one eye to match-fixing, companies bear will naturally change. "Wang Hai said. People think of fighting against, the supervision of anti-counterfeiting groups and business "buying peace" self-regulation can guarantee after match-fixing effect.
In the "professional fighting man" around, also associated with the "informant" group, they could be on corporate employees, could also be peers, competitors, in getting compensation, fake people in accordance with the prescribed proportion of "informers" share the award.
False: both sides of the moral, and lapses?
"In 2004 I revenue of more than 20 million Yuan and taxes of more than 2 million Yuan. "Liu Dianlin said. By virtue of the legal study and clever mind, 20 years later that year as part of "the old gun" became "get rich" man being gobbled up.
Glossy hard cover "professional fighting man" inevitable because of the profit "original sin", with more good people to join the profession, these shameful things to be more magnified.
Some "professional fighting man" was on corporate buying, and received the "protection money", the products let companies continue production and sales issues; some fake people by false means to employ their brand to the company asking for a bonus.
Ironically, Yang Liandi has seen "rights": "several people said the jelly on the shelf in the supermarket has expired, even asked the money hasn't the right to compensation of 5,000 yuan of money-transfer claim equivalent to supermarket stuff from the supermarket. ”
If Wang helps match-fixing, starting price is 300,000 yuan-this is the price for the enterprise, he admitted that "the ' professional match-fixing ' is fighting to try to make money." "Claim is a civil right, fake people can choose to issue corporate claims not to relevant departments to report and not disclosed to the third parties such as consumers or media. "Wang said," Justice has its limits. "
Consumer protection law research association he Shan, China made no secret of its support for this group. "Whether or not to make money, counterfeiting should be punitive damages, this is the ' law ' legislative intent. Law is through the power of leverage to mobilize consumers. "Rivers and mountains view, enlightening consumers ' awareness, purify, improving market," professional fighting man "plays an irreplaceable role, it also reflects the deficiencies of the authorities in these areas.
March 15, 2014, the Supreme People's Court on several issues concerning the trial of cases of disputes over food and drug law specified in the regulations, "food and drug quality dispute, claiming rights to producers and sellers of buyers, producers and sellers to buyers know that food and drug quality problems and still buy defences on the people's Court shall not support." This means, like Yang Liandi purchase expired cake, "intentionally buy false" receives clear support.
In meeting better lawyer firm partner, and lawyer Miao Yunping seems, problem of key is, "career fake people" activist of process in the essentially is in to many not specific most consumers interests as Exchange, "only said this is maintenance has specific people of ' career fake people ' groups of interests, businesses and minority of ' career fake people ' joint up is equal to is cheat has we all of consumers, put truth cover has".
Qiu Baochang, head of the China consumers ' Association legal team believes that illegal operators of "professional fake people" compensation is his costs, in the long run, the costs to be borne by consumers in the end. "If our rights can take more convenient lower cost, human rights defenders, or an organization or institution can help the consumer public interest litigation, we can solve a lot of problems. "Qiu Baochang said.
"Professional fake people" hope that the departments concerned can fully perform their duties, rather than make the fake of the fake people to take on more responsibility. Xinhua "Chinese" Xinhua Lu Guoqiang, Zhang Miao miao
Responsible editor: Mao Minmin SN184
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职业打假人的“江湖”：争议20年 有人坐拥豪宅|打假_新闻资讯
题：争议20年——“职业打假人”的“江湖”
他们鲜以真面目示人，很可能就是逛街时与你擦肩而过的路人甲；他们烂熟法律规定、掌握鉴定资源、精于索赔技巧，即使被百姓奉为揭黑打假英雄时，也毫不避讳“逐利”的初衷。
职业打假20年，他们有人出入乘豪车、坐拥豪宅，也有人被无情淘汰，争议始终伴随。“3·15”前夕，新华社记者走近三位职业打假“老炮儿”，探究这个群体背后的“江湖”。
江湖：“有人就有恩怨，有恩怨就有江湖”
1995年，22岁的青年王海在北京隆福大厦购买了12副假冒索尼耳机，并依消费者权益保护法获得赔偿，从此走上职业打假道路——这是中国民间打假的开端，“职业打假人”王海迅速引起关注和效仿。
那是个属于“老炮儿”的年代，无数个“王海”奔向全国各地的商场、市场，几乎每一个主要城市都会有一两个标志性的“职业打假人”，媒体上经常可以看到各种黑幕被曝光、知名企业陷入“造假门”。
那时，杨连弟还是北京市原宣武区一个连锁超市的店长；前公安民警、工商局干部刘殿林已经“下海”经商，受到“王海现象”的影响，杨连弟和刘殿林分别在北京和唐山开始打假生涯。
当时40多岁的刘殿林专程从河北到北京，对20岁出头的王海以师礼相待。一年以后，刘殿林羽翼渐丰，因为不认同当时王海的观念和打假模式，以及“不想当将军的士兵不是好士兵”等复杂的原因，与王海分道扬镳。
刘殿林拉着一帮人组成联盟，“打着王海的旗号反王海”。杨连弟说，他曾经试图撮合这对曾经合作默契的师徒，但两人裂隙已深，似乎很难再回到当年的状态。
“王海是我的老师，随着年龄增长这事也淡化了，我们现在还有一些合作。他比以前大度，为我们这个行业考虑的也多了。”20年后，刘殿林这样说。
打假人与商家的“恩怨”也颇有意味。“3·15”前，已经是“大佬”级别的杨连弟亲自出手，向北京一家销售过期糕点的知名商场索赔。杨连弟说， 这家商场位于长安街边的总店是他打假的起点，他也因此被列入“黑名单”，在很长一段时间里，他甚至不能在总店正常购物，因此对这家商场“格外关注”。
而刘殿林则因揭露凉茶中违规添加药物与一家凉茶企业结仇，但几次交锋后，厂家因彻底规范化而发展迅猛，双方不但“一笑泯恩仇”，刘殿林更是被聘请为厂家打假顾问，奉为上宾。
规则：“你有你的规矩，我们也有我们的规矩”
江湖上往往有自己的行为规则，对于职业打假人，对手并不总是喜欢用文质彬彬的方式解决问题。
“曾经有个打假人，被打假对象雇来的人在派出所门口扎成重伤。”王海说，总是有打假对象“算不清违法成本”。
刘殿林对自己的合伙人有更江湖气的称呼——“拜把兄弟”，在广州“暗访”人血白蛋白造假时被对方识破，他的两个拜把兄弟险些被对方打死。
“有一次打假牙膏，我们被几十个操着铁棍子的人围殴。我们6个人在医院急诊室里躺了一排，有个兄弟胳膊肿的和腿一样粗。”刘殿林承认，在最初打假时由于自己性格冲动，造成了不少危险，连累了不少“兄弟”。
震动最大的一起案件发生于2003年，当年12月13日，“民间调查员”黄立荣在偷拍、监视紫禁城国医馆老板时被发现，被活活打死后抛尸。
被十几个彪形大汉堵着要求“谈谈”，对于“职业打假人”来说司空见惯。
“那是风险没有控制好。”谈到打假人受到暴力袭击，王海说，为了保护自己，他有一些“规矩”。“比如一些水果摊、小商店缺斤短两，我会提醒他们，但不会真‘打’。”王海说，“‘兔子急了会咬人’。”
除了在公众面前永远不肯摘下的墨镜外，王海还用“大众脸”、当过兵等标准招募打假人员，这也几乎成了所有打假公司招募员工的标准。
而当发生“职业打假人”因打假受伤、被追究刑事责任等情况时，其他打假人会采取各种“声援”行动来“抱团取暖”。
除了要面对造假人的威胁外，“职业打假人”还必须学会处理与行政执法部门、司法部门的关系。“我们严格按照法律程序进行投诉，如果出现行政执法部门地方保护、不作为，那我们就会坚决告它。”王海说，这样的官司每个“职业打假人”都打过。
“收钱噤声”是行内通行的潜规则，在与企业私下达成协议后，打假人不会将企业的不良行为公之于众。“没有不透风的墙，如果企业不改，会一拨一拨 来打假，企业承受不住自然会改。”王海说。打假人认为，打假人群体的监督和企业“花钱买平安”后的自律行为可以保证打假的效果。
在“职业打假人”周围，还伴生有“线人”群体，他们有可能是问题企业的员工，也有可能是同业者、竞争对手，在获得赔偿后，打假人要按照事先约定的比例与“线人”分享赔偿金。
是非：道义放两旁，利字摆中间？
“2004年我收入两千多万元，交税200多万元。”刘殿林说。凭借对法律的钻研以及聪明的头脑，20年后当年的一部分“老炮儿”成为“先富起来”的人而受到追捧。
但光鲜难以掩盖“职业打假人”因逐利而不可避免的“原罪”，随着更多良莠不齐的人投身这个行当，这些不光彩的东西被愈加放大。
一些“职业打假人”被问题企业收买，收了“保护费”后，任由企业继续生产、销售问题产品；有的打假人用造假的手段向雇佣他们的品牌公司索要奖金。
杨连弟曾目睹过一起令人啼笑皆非的“维权”：“几个人在超市里说货架上的果冻有过期的，连钱都没交就要求超市赔偿五千元钱——物权还没有发生转移，相当于用超市的东西向超市索赔。”
如果让王海的公司帮助打假，起步价是30万元——这是针对企业的价格，他坦承“‘职业打假人’打假的初衷就是为了赚钱”。“索赔是一项民事权利，打假人可以自己选择向问题企业索赔后不向有关部门举报、不向消费者或媒体等第三方披露。”王海说，“正义是有限度的”。
中国消费者权益保护法研究会会长河山毫不掩饰对这个群体的支持。“不管是不是为了赚钱，打假都应该获得惩罚性赔偿，这才是‘消法’立法初衷。法 律就要通过经济杠杆的力量动员消费者。”河山认为，在开启民智、提高消费者维权意识、净化市场等方面，“职业打假人”起到了难以替代的作用，同时，也折射 出有关部门在这些领域存在的不足。
2014年3月15日起施行的《最高人民法院关于审理食品药品纠纷案件适用法律若干问题的规定》中明确规定，“因食品、药品质量问题发生纠纷， 购买者向生产者、销售者主张权利，生产者、销售者以购买者明知食品、药品存在质量问题而仍然购买为由进行抗辩的，人民法院不予支持”。这也就意味着，像杨 连弟那样购买过期糕点、“知假买假”的行为得到了明确的支持。
在汇佳律师事务所合伙人、律师苗运平看来，问题的关键在于，“职业打假人”维权的过程中实质上是在以众多不特定多数消费者权益作为交换，“只能 说这是维护了特定人的‘职业打假人’群体的利益，商家和少数的‘职业打假人’联合起来等于是欺骗了我们所有的消费者，把真相掩盖了”。
中国消费者协会律师团团长邱宝昌认为，违法经营者对“职业打假人”的赔偿是他的违法成本，从长远看，这个成本最终还是要由消费者承担。“如果能 够让我们的维权渠道更便捷、维权的成本更低，或者有一个组织或机构可以帮助消费者进行公益诉讼，就能够解决很多问题。”邱宝昌说。
“职业打假人”则希望，有关部门能够充分履职，而不是让打假人承担更多的打假职责。 新华社“中国网事”记者卢国强 张淼淼
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