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Robin: artificial intelligence is still a sheep in Wolf,

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Robin: artificial intelligence is still a sheep in Wolf-artificial intelligence, BAT,IT Leaders Summit-IT information

2016-China (Shenzhen) IT Leadership Summit came to an end yesterday. Go after the man-machine war AlphaGo win over Li Shishi, artificial intelligence, there is no doubt that becoming the focus of current IT Leadership Summit, China′s largest. Artificial intelligence is a welfare or a threat, industry bosses yesterday about this debate. BAT big three Ma, MA, Li collective debut is the shining point of this Summit, it is regrettable that Ma due to attend the opening ceremony of Lake University, failed in "high-level talks" there, people expected for three consecutive years of "shuangma" once again fall to the ground.

Which will in the future be replaced by artificial intelligence?

Man-machine war AlphaGo win chess section Li Shishi, AIS will become masters of the future control of human destiny? At least, to a Summit IT Lady isn′t so pessimistic.

"AlphaGo bad, it is now a human slave. "Innovation works Chairman and Chief Executive, Kai-Fu Lee said of. Li also believed that "is not such a terrible artificial intelligence technology, can be used for people, basically just a sheep in Wolf. ”

However, you can foresee that, for certain occupations, the future is likely to be replaced by artificial intelligence. Kai-Fu Lee believes that AI development will change over the next decade each industry, 50% was expected to be in place. For instance, Lee has not bought back over the past year the human-managed fund, is managed by the robot to help. He also disclosed a number United States intelligence following the transaction, traders fell from 100,000 to 50,000.

Li also mentioned that, including many professional translation will be replaced by artificial intelligence. Hospital of Peking University Professor Wang Shan said, the reaction speed of the robot can do with people like not only do surgery in the future, even in the privacy of operation such as urinary catheters also do not need to live in the area. Artificial intelligence will bring a series of medical model change.

Compared to professional instead, digital China Federation Executive Director Deng threw out a more shocking problem: a person can be his soul, knowledge, feelings, let a machine society, so that the machine can make people live forever in the spirit in the future?

Germany Hamburg University Zhang Jianwei, Director of the Institute of information science Department of multimodal technology in favor of the definite answer is given. He finds that this issue although highly controversial, but at the technical level we can consider that possibility. "Our soul, memory, storage, and put it on the machine, do the immortality of the soul, which is the topic of this century to achieve good. "Zhang Jianwei said will, of course, poses ethical problems, after the people are immortal, if no new updates to life in this world?

Huaijin Peng, Vice Minister of the Ministry of industry and information unlimited raising is opposed to artificial intelligence, he throws another two questions: can robots make a Beethoven Symphony, please? Robots could be as significant as the human Hilbert math questions? In his view, on the limitations of human reason to solve complex problems, artificial intelligence is very effective, but not through the depth of learning and reinforcement learning can solve all the problems.

Artificial intelligence will bring China overtaking opportunities

"AlphaGo contest ending, and artificial intelligence as a representative of the new technology is triggering a new technology across and integration also brings China overtaking opportunities. "Huaijin Peng, Vice Minister of industry and information technology said in opening the meeting, we are actively deploying intelligent manufacturing, intelligent industrial hardware, Internet +, and larger data fields such as new technologies, for the Chinese market and in the transformation of industrial advantages in the industry to seize the favorable location.

High-end dialogue

High-level talks are China (Shenzhen) focus part of IT Leadership Summit, but on the 3 consecutive years of high level dialogue, people did not live to see Ma′s body. 2014 MA to attend the Summit, but did not participate in the high level dialogue, 2015 Ma telekinesis by video debut, high-level talks this year hit the Lake the University commencement address, President Ma went to Hangzhou. Little Jack Ma of Alibaba, but also there is Baidu′s Robin Li, Ma Huateng of Tencent, Yang yuanqing, Lenovo, this year there is also Le Jia Yue Ting, high-level talks continued to explosion point again and again, BAT is still around the topic.

BAT was over the Internet "three big mountains"?

Letv Chairman Jia Yue Ting said can′t compete and BAT in one dimension, to create a new, higher dimension

High-end dialogue facilitator, digital China Chairman Wu Ying a hypothesis, 4 guests pair PK, Jia Yue Ting and Yang yuanqing, cooperation, can Robin and pony challenge.

"Everyone are said BAT three seat big mountain shrouded has whole Internet, led to many real innovation type of Internet Enterprise dark, everyone see not to future," Le depending on Chairman Jia Yue Pavilion site language rich rendering sex, he said, countless a Internet innovation company birth began only three species fate, first is was BAT copy mode playing died, second is directly was merger, third is was shares. Vying for users on the entrance, if the Association and to cooperate at the terminal entrance, entrance and platform competition, "may have some different competition."

"The most important thing is to be able to create a new dimension or higher dimensions, rather than compete and BAT in the same dimension. "Jia Yue Ting believes that future trend is broken, breaking boundaries. Internet connected by a vertical industry into the Internet ecosystem, the Internet combined with intelligent Terminal, and content, and services, it is possible to create a new economy, new user value.

"The three mountains are bonsai, we don′t take it seriously. "Li are so responded to Jia Yue Ting′s" three big mountains ". Li believes that mode is not the most important, entrances, platforms, vertical integration was not the most critical, important is also to meet the requirements and how to better meet the needs of users.

Li also noted that the commercial power is the great driving force of innovation of science and technology, behind many scientific advances, business-driven, and the competition is very critical. Business competition in a way is "death threats", if you find my enterprise won′t die every day, then you might really die slowly, think the company will die every day, your company will be bigger and bigger.

Why BAT data sharing?

Ma said user privacy is the problem, Li said that sharing is not only a data sharing, including technology sharing

Yesterday′s high-level talks on the theme "IT innovation and the sharing economy" at the q, there are industry sources questioned Ali, Tencent and other giant does not make data sharing, but in reality, when communicating with their giant data sharing, will encounter a variety of problems, unable to get data from the Giants, which do not flow to generate more value.

"The biggest problem is the issue of user privacy protection. "Ma said if the demand side is statistical data, open and there is no problem, but if the problem is related to users ′ privacy, Tencent may not be entitled to do so, to distinguish between the legal aspects of the problem. Difficulty of data sharing is significant, like everyone′s phone will receive harassing text messages, is all about your information being shared out, so the big premise was how to protect users ′ privacy. Flatbed company would want the data to be a core competency, and partners share is a tendency, if not done, the platform will lose competitiveness, but consider also a lot of open data, is thinking about how to solve the problem.

At the scene, the hosts also made a "brain hole wide open" questions, if suddenly one day the company′s resources were shared by pony, MA to take Ali the resources to do something? Ma said that is hardly a company suddenly transferred to another enterprise to operation, it doesn′t make much sense, more is to get more businesses to collaborate, to angle of ecological development.

Robin when it comes to sharing economic said that sharing is not only a data sharing, including technology sharing. Baidu is now a very large amount of data, every day and accumulate a lot of new data, but the data itself is not able to directly produce too much value to truly have an impact on society, and must be combined with various industries. Baidu is willing to share data, are willing to share a lot of technology and therefore more data, and more data, the more there are opportunities to improve the technology, "only take something out to someone else, I can very well promoted. ”


李彦宏:人工智能仍是披着狼皮的羊 - 人工智能,BAT,IT领袖峰会 - IT资讯

2016中国(深圳)IT领袖峰会昨日落下帷幕。在围棋人机大战AlphaGo大胜李世石之后,人工智能毫无疑问地成为本届中国IT领袖峰会最大的焦点。人工智能到底是福利还是威胁,昨日业界大佬对此展开激辩。BAT三巨头马云、马化腾、李彦宏集体亮相也是本届峰会的一大看点,遗憾的是马云因参加湖畔大学开学典礼,最终未能在“高端对话”环节出现,人们连续三年所期待的“双马会”再次落空。

未来哪些职业将会被人工智能取代?

人机大战AlphaGo大胜围棋九段李世石,未来人工智能将会反客为主掌控人类的命运吗?至少,参加峰会的IT大咖并没有那么悲观。

“AlphaGo再厉害,现在也是人类的奴隶。”创新工场董事长兼首席执行官李开复如此评价。而李彦宏也认为,“人工智能等技术其实没有这么可怕,可以为人们所用,基本上只是披着狼皮的羊。”

不过,可以预见的是,对于某些职业来说,未来极有可能被人工智能取代。李开复就认为,未来十年AI的发展会改变每一个产业,预计50%的工作都会被代替。比如,李开复过去一年就没有再买回过人类管理的基金,都是由智能机器人帮忙管理。他还披露了一个数字,美国智能交易出来之后,交易员从10万掉到了5万。

李彦宏也提及,包括翻译在内的多种职业会被人工智能所代替。而北大医院外科教授王杉则称,机器人已经可以做到跟人的反应速度一样,将来不仅仅是做手术,甚至是在一些隐私的操作领域比如导尿也不需要真人。人工智能将带来一系列医疗模式的改变。

相比于职业取代,数字中国联合会常务理事邓中翰抛出了一个更加震撼的问题:人是不是可以将他的灵魂、知识、感受都让一个机器学会,从而使这个机器将来可以在精神上让人长生不老?

德国汉堡大学信息科学系多模态技术研究所所长张建伟给出了倾向于肯定的答案。他认为这个问题虽然极具争议,但在技术层面完全可以讨论这个可能性。“把我们的灵魂、记忆存储起来,放在机器上,做到灵魂不死,这是这个世纪能实现的很好的题目。”张建伟称,当然会带来伦理问题,人都长生不老之后,会不会没有新的生命更新这个世界?

工业和信息化部副部长怀进鹏则反对将人工智能无限拔高,他抛出另外两个问题:机器人能做出来贝多芬交响曲吗?机器人能够像人类希尔伯特那样提出重大的数学问题吗?他认为,在人类理性局限难以解决的复杂问题上,人工智能的确非常有效,但是并非通过深度学习和强化学习就可以解决所有问题。

人工智能将给中国带来弯道超车的机会

“AlphaGo大赛的落幕,使人工智能为代表的新应用技术正在触动着一种新的技术跨越和整合,也给中国带来了弯道超车的机会。”工业和信息化部副部长怀进鹏在开幕会上透露,我们正在积极部署智能制造、智能产业和硬件、互联网+、大数据新型技术等领域,为我国的市场和产业优势在产业变革中抢占有利位置。

高端对话

高端对话一直是中国(深圳)IT领袖峰会的焦点环节,但连续3年的高端对话上,人们都没能看到马云的真身。2014年马云参加峰会,但没有参与高端对话,2015年马云以视频方式隔空亮相,今年高端对话时间则撞上湖畔大学的开学典礼,作为校长的马云去了杭州。少了阿里巴巴的马云,但还有百度的李彦宏、腾讯的马化腾、联想的杨元庆,今年还有乐视的贾跃亭,高端对话继续爆点连连,而BAT仍是绕不过的话题。

BAT是笼罩互联网的“三座大山”?

乐视董事长贾跃亭称不能和BAT在同一个维度下竞争,要创造新的、更高的维度

高端对话主持人、数字中国联合会主席吴鹰现场提了一个假设,4位嘉宾配对PK,贾跃亭和杨元庆合作,能不能对李彦宏和马化腾形成挑战。

“大家都说BAT三座大山笼罩了整个互联网,导致很多真正创新型的互联网企业暗无天日,大家看不到未来,”乐视董事长贾跃亭现场语言富有渲染性,他说,无数个互联网创新公司诞生开始只有三种命运,第一是被BAT复制模式打死,第二是直接被并购,第三是被参股。在争夺用户的入口上,如果联想和乐视能在终端入口合作,和平台入口竞争,“可能会有些不一样的竞争”。

“最重要的是能创造全新的维度,或者更高的维度,而不是和BAT在同一个维度下竞争。”贾跃亭认为,未来要走向的是破界,打破各种边界。互联网由一个垂直的产业变成连接各方的互联网生态,互联网跟智能终端结合,再和内容结合、服务结合,就有可能创造出全新的经济形态、全新的用户价值来。

“这三座大山都是盆景,大家别太当真。”李彦宏如此回应贾跃亭的“三座大山”论。李彦宏认为,模式的问题并不是最重要,入口、平台、垂直整合不是最关键,重要的还是满足了什么需求、怎样更好地满足用户的需求。

李彦宏还谈到,商业力量是科技创新非常大的推动力,很多科学进步背后都有商业力量推动,而竞争又是非常关键的。商业的竞争某种意义也是“死亡的威胁”,如果天天觉得我这个企业不会死,那你可能慢慢真的就死了,天天觉得这个公司会死,你这个公司反而会越做越大。

BAT数据为何难共享?

马化腾称用户隐私保护是难题,李彦宏则表示,共享不仅是数据共享,也包括技术共享

昨日高端对话的主题是“IT创新与共享经济”,在答问环节,有行业人士质疑阿里、腾讯等巨头不做数据共享,而现实中在跟巨头沟通做数据共享时,会遇到各种各样的问题,无法从巨头处得到数据,而数据不流动就难以产生更大的价值。

“这里面最大的问题是用户隐私保护的问题。”马化腾表示,如果需求方要的是统计性的数据,开放还没有问题,但是如果要的是涉及到用户隐私的问题,腾讯可能无权这么做,要区分法律方面的一些问题。数据共享的难度还是相当大的,比如大家的手机会收到骚扰短信,就是你的信息被人共享出去了,所以最大的前提还是要怎么保护用户隐私。平台型的公司都会非常希望数据成为一个核心竞争力,和合作伙伴分享是一个趋势,如果不这么做,平台反而失去竞争力,但是开放数据的考虑也很多,正在思考怎么解决难题。

在现场,主持人还提出一个“脑洞大开”的问题,假设有一天阿里巴巴的资源突然被马化腾共享了,马化腾能够拿阿里的资源来做什么事?马化腾表示,很难说一个企业突然间转给另一个企业来运营,这不太合理,更多还是让更多的企业之间能够互相协作,往生态的角度发展。

李彦宏谈到共享经济时则表示,共享不仅是数据共享,也包括技术共享。百度现在的数据量非常大,且每天都积累很多新数据,但是数据本身并不能够直接产生太大的价值,要真正地对社会产生影响,必须要跟各个行业进行结合。百度愿意共享数据,也愿意共享很多技术,并因此积累更多数据,而数据越多,就越有机会去改进技术,“只有把东西拿出来给别人用,自己才能很好地提升。”






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