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The journey to become a classic, Dragon Ball is made? ,

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The journey to become a classic, Dragon Ball is made? -Journey to the West, the Dragon, Liu Xiao Ling Tong-IT information

Liu Xiao Ling Tong said in an interview, "we don't blindly follow behind some countries to catch up with their style, as ghost monkey make mustache hair at first glance, what of the seven Dragon balls, this is not something our nation. ”

Although Zhang Jinlai teacher can't even speak the name of the Dragon Ball is wrong, but what he said reflects a problem, how do we think about adaptation of the classic and classic?

Hodgson:

First of all, Liu Xiao Ling Tong was just an actor, journey to the West or traditional culture about the problem, I urge the media not to ask him.

Liu Xiao Ling Tong was with "genuine Monkey King" itself, any TV series Monkey King that is inconsistent with his play are all regarded as "heresy".

Secondly, it is said the journey to the Monkey King and the only Dragon Ball, with the same name, I do not agree with. They are creating and recreating relationships.

In the initial set of Dragon Ball characters, bird shanming declared the author, this is an ancient Chinese Dragon legends and pilgrimage into a funny comic.

Early in the manga, demon king, and flaming, and palm-leaf fan, gold-silver, are all in the journey to the role. Some netizens even speculated that Bulma = Tang, Wukong = Wukong, oolong tea = = pig, James Wood sand ... ... Version a lot, of course, after all, the master Akira Toriyama did not say.

Story development later, Dragon Ball, are farther away from journey to the West. Martial arts Assembly 2, bird shanming began introducing elements of science fiction, Goku begins with the destruction of the Earth's combat effectiveness. Cloud and the late great nothing, Goku finally digging their own life – alien, upgrading from this to the universe and the infinite line.

But even so, I still cannot say no relationship between them. From journey to the core point of view, the two monkey are still similar.

First of all, both Goku and strength beyond the ordinary, and that force is the source of a mystery.

Journey to the Sun Wukong of dubious origin in Boulder, is called Bodhi learned a skill, who sought her out this disciple of the Monkey King who is the founder Bodhi, but I do not know.

The Dragon and the Monkey King's origin is more mysterious, from fighting ethnic Saiyan, broke as the brain of people with a disability, first understand the open hanging meaning into a Super Saiyan, then hung in the opening on the road to go further, it's inspirational than Guo Jing.

Second, the Dragon and the journey is all about finding the story.

First aim is to find the Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball, then in pursuit of martial arts to the road until the pursuit of peace, journey to the West is the search for Canon, locating on the cultivation of the mind.

Again, the Dragon Ball Goku and journey to the West of the monkey are said to be experiencing 9,981.

Both Dragon Ball Goku and the journey to the Monkey King, had experience fighting life, glorious life, are "just grabbed a couple of Monster, and drop a couple of magic", so we cannot help but ask, clearly leads rings in, there are so many demons with their enemies. What is wrong with this society, "ghosts and why is it so much?"

But compared to journey to the West, the Dragon Ball in pursuit of blood, passion, more simple and direct. In Akira Toriyama's works, the Monkey King little gods and Buddha-nature, but more human, as one man to love to hate, fight to fight, so it's easier to be accepted and loved by the general public.

Back to Liu Xiao Ling Tong, a lot of people think he is most in line with the original version of the Monkey King Sun Wukong, but it wasn't.

Journey to the West is the crystallization of mass created, the image of the Monkey King started to appear in the Tang sanzang poetry during the Southern Song dynasty, Monkey King, although it was a monkey, but the image is a well-mannered and the pale face, does not stick in his hand, but Tin and alms Bowl.

To the Yuan dynasty, journey to the West, Sun Wukong is so introduced their own "Golden Tripod, I for his wife, Jade Emperor Temple wine my drink. I steal Lao Lian on Elixir, nine turn chain is as strong as, eyes, brass rock ass, put Tin Dick. I stole the Queen Mother peach hundred, clothes, and his wife was wearing. ”

Not only good coax with the same age as the universe, equal to the road gods and abducted Princess Jin Dingguo, a daily pleasure, show off their genitals.

Dark monkey

It should be said that the image of the Monkey King is the result of continuous innovation and subversion.

Liu Xiao Ling Tong, think they are original Sun Wukong, journey on a number of occasions against the original works adapted as "fabrications"

But Liu Xiao Ling Tong in 86 version, journey to shape the image of the Monkey King is not fully compatible with the original image in this journey to the TV, the Monkey King loyal to Tang, faithful to the Scriptures, animosities, the image is after the founding of the revolutionary narrative constantly reconstruct the monkey results, not inherent in the original version.

Liu Xiao Ling Tong is said to have also participated in involved in the filming of Donnie's version of the monkey to quit, because the crew to the Monkey King added a nine-tailed Fox girlfriend, Liu Xiao Ling Tong today may be more suitable for playing the Jade Emperor, as years of feudal parents to put out all the small flame of love.

This image of the Monkey King is the crystallization of collective creation, this will change with the different values of the times. Revolutionary narratives under the three dramatic works such as King, focusing on the Monkey King's revolutionary, modern Monkey on the return of the great sage, Goku is representative of the rebel, is the pursuit of freedom breaking traditional representatives, 1000 1000 a person in the eyes of the Monkey King.

By contrast, in my opinion, the protagonist of Dragon Ball, adapted the most successful of the Monkey King, by not by the original story does not matter, first have to let the audience likes, then someone will research the spirit, which is the difference between well modified.

This is placed in the body of the Dragon Ball. Bird shanming once said of the Dragon is the work is over, but now continues, although the United States not satisfied with the live-action version, also complained to theatrical releases, Dragon Ball Super is now also being rotten.

Americans are original works changes too much, Japan animation creators too caught up in the original plot, no input is nothing new. Anyway good Dragon Ball fans ' enthusiasm is still there, feelings remain.

Today is Dragon Ball 30 years, when many small partners has become the Dragon Ball Dragon Ball cultural adaptation.

A game producer in China with eyes closed in front of master Akira Toriyama hand-painted a picture of the Monkey King, got a master's authority, to create a section called the hand of the Dragon Ball z fighting.

Cultures are mutually reinforcing, and had no need to fully adhere to the original. Appears in Dragon Ball Super has an image of ageing.

This wisdom beads in hand, deliberate image of wise, apparently comic creator is greatly influenced by the influence of Chinese popular culture, ancestors are good, of course, inherited, others well, of course it is going to take to, sing opera, plays guitar, is the tribute to the classic attitude.


《西游记》成为经典,《龙珠》就是胡编? - 西游记,龙珠,六小龄童 - IT资讯

六小龄童在一次采访中说“我们不要一味跟着某一些国家后面去追他们的那种风格,把孙悟空都弄得髭毛乍鬼的那样的,叫什么《七龙珠》,这个不是我们民族的东西。”

虽然章金莱老师连《龙珠》的名字都说错了,但他所说的其实反映了一个问题,我们怎样看待经典和经典的改编?

霍老爷觉得:

首先,六小龄童只是一个演员,跟西游记或者传统文化有关的问题,我恳请媒体不要再问他了。

六小龄童先生是以“正牌孙悟空”自居的,任何与自己演的电视剧不符的孙悟空都视为“异端”。

其次,有人说《西游记》的孙悟空和《龙珠》的只是重名的关系,我不赞同。他们其实是创造和再创造的关系。

在《龙珠》的人物角色的初始设定中,作者鸟山明就声明了,这是一部把中国古代龙珠传说和《西游记》结合成为一个搞笑漫画。

在漫画前期,牛魔王、火焰山、芭蕉扇、金角银角等都是西游记中的角色。甚至有网友推测,布尔玛=唐僧、悟空=悟空、乌龙=八戒、雅木茶=沙和尚……当然版本很多,毕竟鸟山明大师没有说明。

剧情发展到后期,《龙珠》离《西游记》已经越来越远了。到了武道大会2以后,鸟山明开始大量引入科幻元素,悟空开始拥有了毁灭地球的战斗力。后期筋斗云和如意棒的作用都没有了,悟空也终于挖掘了自己的身世——外星人,从此走向宇宙和无限升级的路线。

但就算这样,仍然不能说它们之间没有关系。从西游记内核角度去看,这两个孙悟空还是有一定相似的。

首先,这两个悟空都有超出常人的力量,并且这股力量的来源很神秘。

《西游记》里的孙悟空这只来历不明的石猴,是拜访菩提祖师才学到的一身本领,至于这位能调教出孙悟空这样徒弟的菩提祖师到底是何方神圣,却不得其知。

《龙珠》里的孙悟空的出身则更为神秘,来自战斗种族赛亚人,作为摔坏了脑子的残疾人士,最先领悟了开挂成为超级赛亚人的奥义,从此在开挂的道路上越走越远,简直比郭靖还要励志。

其次,《龙珠》和《西游记》都是关于寻找的故事。

《龙珠》最初的目的是寻找龙珠,后来是追寻武学的至道,直至追求和平,《西游记》则是追寻真经,追寻对心灵的修炼。

再次,龙珠的悟空和西游记的悟空都可以说是经历过九九八十一难。

无论是龙珠的悟空还是西游记的悟空,都经历了战斗的一生,光辉的一生,都是“刚擒住了几个妖,又降住了几个魔”,让我们不禁要问,明明有主角光环在,还有这么多妖魔与他们为敌。这个社会究竟怎么了,“妖魔鬼怪咋就这么多”?

不过相比西游记,《龙珠》追求的是热血、激情,更加的简单和直接。在鸟山明的笔下,孙悟空少了神性和佛性,反而有更多的人性色彩,像一个人一样去爱去恨,去奋斗去战斗,因此更容易被普通大众所接纳和热爱。

再说回六小龄童,很多人认为他是孙悟空是最符合原著的孙悟空,其实根本不是。

西游记是群众创造的结晶,孙悟空这个形象开始出现是在南宋年间的《大唐三藏取经诗话》,里面的孙悟空虽然已经是个猴子,但形象却是个文质彬彬的白面书生,他手里并没有金箍棒,反而是锡杖和钵盂。

而到了元杂剧《西游记》里,孙悟空是这么介绍自己的“金鼎国女子我为妻,玉皇殿琼浆咱得饮。我盗了太上老君炼就金丹,九转炼得铜筋铁骨,火眼金睛,鍮石屁眼,摆锡鸡巴。我偷得王母仙桃百颗,仙衣一套,与夫人穿着。”

不但牛逼哄哄地与天地同寿,与诸路神仙等量,而且还掳走了金鼎国公主,每日淫乐,还炫耀自己的生殖器。

暗黑系悟空

应该说,孙悟空这个形象是不断的创造和颠覆的结果。

六小龄童虽然自认为自己是原版孙悟空,在多个场合反对对《西游记》原著进行改编,称之为”胡编乱造“

但六小龄童在86版《西游记》里塑造的孙悟空形象也并不尽符合原著的形象,在这部《西游记》电视剧里,孙悟空忠于唐僧,忠于取经事业,嫉恶如仇,这种形象其实是建国后革命叙事不断对孙悟空进行重构的结果,并不是原著所固有的。

据说六小龄童还参与参与甄子丹版《大闹天宫》拍摄,中途退出了,因为剧组给孙悟空添加了一只九尾狐女朋友,也许现今的六小龄童更适合饰演玉皇大帝,作为万年封建家长掐灭一切爱情的小火苗。

孙悟空这个形象本来就是群众集体创作的结晶,这种创作会随着不同时代的价值观而改变。比如革命叙事下的《三打白骨精》等戏剧作品里,就侧重孙悟空的革命性,现代的《悟空传》《大圣归来》等等,悟空都是叛逆的代表,是追求自由突破传统的代表,一千个人眼里就有一千个孙悟空。

相比之下,我觉得《龙珠》的主角算是改编最成功的孙悟空,按不按原著剧情走无所谓,首先必须要让观众喜好,其次才会有人考究里面的精神内涵,这就是改得好不好的区别。

这个道理放在《龙珠》身上是一样的。鸟山明曾经说过《龙珠》是已经结束的作品,可是现在还在继续,虽然对美国真人版不太满意,对剧场版也颇有微词,《龙珠超》目前也被做烂了。

美国人是对原作改动太大,日本动画制作者太拘于原作情节,根本没有投入什么新意。不过怎么说都好,龙珠粉丝的热情仍在,情怀仍在。

今天是龙珠三十周年,当年很多看龙珠的小伙伴已经成了龙珠文化的改编者。

中国的一个游戏制作人凭着在鸟山明大师面前闭眼手绘了一幅孙悟空,拿到了大师的授权,打造了一款叫《龙珠激斗》的手游。

文化都是相互促进的,本来就没必要完全拘泥于原著。比如在《龙珠超》里就出现了一个长者形象。

这种智珠在握,从容不迫的智者形象,显然漫画的创作者也深受中国流行文化的熏陶,老祖宗的东西都很好,当然要继承,别人的东西好,当然也要拿来,唱得了京剧,也弹得了吉他,才是致敬经典的态度。






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