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Beijing babaoshan, a lot of the old Tomb no jisao maturity transformation problem

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Beijing babaoshan number expire old Tomb no tomb sweeping reform challenges | babaoshan | tombstone _ news

Yesterday, the people of the babaoshan cemetery, the tomb of an old Tomb has been broken. Beijing News reporter Yin Yafei photography


The Beijing news yesterday was the first day of the Ching Ming holidays, in addition to the 100,000 of thousands of graves of the public, there are swarms of old Tomb no tomb sweeping. Bury decades of tombstones, some nearly collapsed, some body has been broken. Beijing News journalist yesterday learned from the people of Beijing's babaoshan cemetery, the over more than 60,000 gravestones in the cemetery, there are more than 37,000 Tomb had expired, which contains a large number of unmanned jisao Tomb.


Beijing Municipal Civil Affairs Bureau has issued a document saying, for the traditional tomb of lease contracts expired, shall be held in an appropriate section of ecological transformation. However, these unmanned jisao LAO Mu do, into a blind spot in the reconstruction of the cemetery.


  Many tombstones of the cemetery not contact families


"Comrades, we did this tomb also renewed? "Yesterday morning at the babaoshan cemetery of the people within the Office of operations, 72 year old Lily from the United States back to Beijing to grave, and asked the staff about" old Tomb renewals "problem. Xinhua learned from the downtown cemetery, Beijing carried out the funeral is reported in the media, the traditional message expires in principle does not renew the grave, many people came to ask.


Lily told reporters that the coming back is to look at the graves of my parents how to deal with renewal renewal cannot be relet to reform. "In any case, I know a thing, you have to come back. Reconstruction after long-term storage, I think is good. ”


However, in addition to Lily to contact the cemetery, there are some tombstones for a long time can not contact families. People of the babaoshan cemetery spokesman Ni Xiaofeng told reporters that buried some 90 of the last century gravestones, family members stay phone or 6 digits fixed telephone, "We also try to make the address to contact families of the Tomb owner, most of the replacement residence. ”


  Babaoshan graves have fallen there are 37,000


Beijing cemetery lease for 20 years, renewals can generally be extended for 10 years at a time. According to the Beijing Municipal Civil Affairs Bureau introduced, starting from 2013, Beijing ushered in a 20-year lease expires the peak of the cemetery, 33 operating cemetery in Beijing, including people of the babaoshan cemetery, Wan an cemetery, Port-au-Prince Yu Badaling people, Fukuda cemetery, cemetery, the cemetery, are facing massive tombstone expiration problem. Only people of the babaoshan cemetery, date, expiration graves has about 37000.


No tomb sweeping old Tomb, Ni Xiaofeng said the babaoshan cemetery on the eve of qingming every year to do some cleaning and repair work, but the more seriously damaged gravestones, as it involves the remains or ashes of the deceased, not big renovations.


"The national has no policy clearly does not renew or not contact family members how to dispose of the cemetery, cemetery and the dead, cemetery management what measures are difficult. "Ni Xiaofeng said that such tombs, only let it hit the ground, had no alternative.


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People of the babaoshan cemetery


Many tombstones broken or buried in soil


Yesterday morning at the babaoshan cemetery for five of the people on a cemetery East, reporters saw a piece of tombstones stand in 1959, sculpture has been broken, the monument has also collapsed, the entire tombstone obscured by the leaves and soil dust, seemed to have no tomb sweeping for many years.


In this area, most of the tombstones have been broken or buried in mud, some tombstones showed dozens of centimeters of stones, if not in the Tomb area, haven't seen this is tombstone. A tombstone carved front a five-pointed star, also engraved with "liberation" of the word, other words are not so clear. Cemetery managers, this may be a soldier of the old Tomb.


People of the babaoshan cemetery spokesman Ni Xiaofeng introduces, for the traditional tomb of the lease contract expires, "the future is ecological transformation, but how to reform, there is no relevant policy. Expiring old tombs can still be as a matter of policy fees apply for renewal business. ”


At present, the people of the babaoshan cemetery for nearly 40,000 graves due Ni Xiaofeng said babaoshan stages apply for renewal business. At present, the cemetery was the third batch of old Tomb renewals work.


Modification is acceptable the cemetery yesterday to babaoshan carry an elderly sister said they are residents of Shijingshan, Grandpa and dad are buried here. After the death of their own ecological burial is acceptable, but have buried parents can't transform.


 Fukuda cemetery


Remains of Tomb covers an area of about 80%


Beijing news reporters yesterday in Futian cemetery grave to see, some have overgrown around the grave, tombstone also has an overall collapse; tombstone appearance, concrete cracked and broken into many pieces; there are also tombstones are only half in the field, writing above are difficult to identify.


Fukuda cemetery of one head told reporter, because Fukuda cemetery has built has more than 80 years, so Park within has many old Tomb, part is new China established zhiqian and early on buried this of remains Tomb, about accounted for total of 13%, but accounted for to area in 80% around; addition a Department points is is change funeral way Hou of ashes Tomb, but by provides has over 20 years of property period, also has more than 1500 multiple.


Transformation of the old tomb and renewable issues are concerned. The head said, seventy or eighty years ago the remains of tombs, because no relevant approaches at national level, so the cemetery currently try to maintain the status quo, "want to improve on this part of the Tomb to make problems encountered by many, mainly the conceptual problem, many people can not accept cremated remains buried, so we have to respect their families will. ”


For the ashes of property rights, the official told reporters near the Tomb-already many people consult the problem of renewals, but there are also "expires" contact anyone.


According to reports, Fukuda cemetery can provide continued service at present, if the lessee has not changed, just carry an ID card and cemetery point cards to apply for.


Wan an cemetery


There are no family members agreed to accept modification


Wan an cemetery, a graveyard, some more than 10 years to more than 20-year old Tomb also has tombstones broken, the surrounding land some bare, relatively new green tomb so satisfactory. Staff, new Tomb some times relative to previous years jisao, will diminish in the future, there is also not facilitate grave sweepers ' visits by relatives abroad.


According to reports, this year's qingming, the initiative of consulting the renewal of more families than ever before, with several family members want to renew in advance. In this regard, cemetery clerk will actively introduce and recommend ecological burial policies such as tree burial, but no family members agreed to accept reform.


But Beijing News reporter in the Wan an cemetery-do Hall noted that the families of the some of the ashes of the cemetery register, prepared for registration and participation in sea Sub.


Wan an Cemetery Administration Deputy Director Shi Jianghai said, according to the Bureau's policy, in principle, the traditional grave no longer renew after expiration, but the process also requires a certain degree of public acceptance. If the families urged to renew does not accept ecological transformation, policy will give a certain amount of space. But in General, Wan an cemetery encouraged due the grave ecological transformation.


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Will introduce measures to guide the people to transform the traditional Tomb


The future, traditional headstones are allowed to renew Beijing documents have made it very clear: no renewal in principle. However due to the supporting measures are not introduced, not renewal of how reconstruction of the tomb is still unknown. The reporter learned from the people of the babaoshan cemetery, due the cemetery you can select stereo-bury ashes walls, ashes buried or in other ways, these burial fees are high.


Li Hongbing, Deputy Director of the Civil Affairs Bureau, spokesman said the transformation of the traditional practice, not one size fits all approach to achieve, through advocacy make people really understanding and personal practice. In other words, it must let you really want, in such a way.


Li Hongbing says, in addition to leading demonstrations outside the party members and cadres, Beijing will also develop a set of incentives to encourage measures to guide the public to choose the ecological burial reform.


Ni Xiaofeng told reporters that already have come to consult the public if into eco-Tomb can be rewarding, he said: "We hope that incentives can play a good role, more importantly enhance propaganda, encouraging voluntary eco-burial, after all, our land is very limited. ”


This version of interview/Beijing News reporter Wu Wei Wang Mengyao Li TINGTING



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北京八宝山大量老墓无人祭扫 到期改造遇难题|八宝山|墓碑_新闻资讯

昨日,八宝山人民公墓,一座老墓的墓身已经断裂。新京报记者 尹亚飞 摄


  新京报讯 昨日是清明假期的第一天,除了数以十万计的市民出行扫墓外,还有成群的老墓无人祭扫。一些下葬几十年的墓碑,有的几近坍塌,有的墓身已经断裂。新京报记者昨日从北京八宝山人民公墓获悉,该墓地6万余墓碑里,有3万7千多座墓已经到期,其中就包含大量无人祭扫的墓。


  北京市民政局曾发文称,对于租用合同到期的传统墓穴,应以适当方式进行节地生态化改造。然而,这些无人祭扫的老墓怎么办,成了墓地改造的盲点。


  公墓多处墓碑联系不上家属


  “同志,我们这墓还让续租吗?”昨日上午,在八宝山人民公墓业务厅内,72岁的李莉专门从美国赶回北京来扫墓,并向工作人员询问“老墓续租”的问题。记者从北京市区多处公墓了解到,在媒体报道了北京推行生态殡葬,传统墓穴到期原则上不续租的消息后,不少市民前来询问。


  李莉告诉记者,这次回来就是看看父母的墓如何处理,能续租就续租,不能续租也接受改造。“无论如何,我知道了这个事情就得回来处理。改造后能长期有人保管,我觉得也不错。”


  然而,除了李莉这样主动联系墓地的,还有一些长时间联系不上家属的墓碑。八宝山人民公墓发言人倪晓峰告诉记者,有些上世纪九十年代下葬的墓碑,家属留的电话都还是6位数的固定电话,“我们也曾尝试根据对方留下的地址去联系墓主人家属,大多更换了住处。”


  八宝山到期墓穴已有3.7万座


  北京规定公墓的租期为20年,续费一次一般可延长10年。据北京市民政局介绍,从2013年开始,北京市就迎来了20年公墓租期的到期高峰,北京市33家经营性公墓中,包括八宝山人民公墓、万安公墓、太子峪陵园、福田公墓、八达岭人民公墓等,都面临大量墓碑到期的问题。仅八宝山人民公墓,截至目前,到期墓穴就有37000座左右。


  对于无人祭扫的老墓,倪晓峰说,八宝山会在每年清明前夕做一些清扫和修缮工作,但损毁较为严重的墓碑,由于牵涉到逝者的遗体或骨灰,没法做大的修缮。


  “国家没有政策明确对不续租或联系不上家属的墓地如何处置,墓地又涉及死者,公墓经营管理部门很难采取什么措施。”倪晓峰说,对这样的墓,只能让它占着地,别无他法。


  ■ 探访


  八宝山人民公墓


  不少墓碑断裂或被泥土掩埋


  昨日上午,在八宝山人民公墓五区东侧的一块墓地上,记者看到一块立于1959年的墓碑,碑身已经断裂,碑的主体也已倒塌,整个墓碑被树叶和土灰掩盖,看起来已经多年无人祭扫。


  在这片区域,多数墓碑已经断裂或被泥土掩埋,有的墓碑只露出了几十厘米的石块,如果不是在墓区,都看不出这是墓碑。一座墓碑正面刻着一个五角星,还刻有“解放”二字,其他字迹都看不清了。墓地管理人员介绍,这可能是一块军人的老墓。


  八宝山人民公墓发言人倪晓峰介绍,对于租用合同到期的传统墓穴,“未来的方向是生态化改造,但具体如何改造,目前还没有相关政策出台。到期的老墓仍可按政策交费办理续租业务。”


  目前,八宝山人民公墓已有近4万座墓穴到期,倪晓峰表示,八宝山将分期分批办理续租业务。目前,墓地正在进行第三批老墓续租工作。


  对于是否能接受墓地改造,昨日,前来八宝山扫墓的一对老姐妹说,她们都是石景山的老居民,爷爷、爸爸都葬在这里。她们自己去世后可以接受生态葬,但已经下葬的父辈们的墓还是不能改造。


  福田公墓


  遗体墓占地面积在80%左右


  新京报记者昨天在福田公墓的墓区看到,一些墓穴四周已经长满荒草,墓碑也已经整体塌掉;有的墓碑外表,水泥开裂并碎成很多块;还有一些墓碑则只剩半截插在地里,上面的字迹也难以辨别。


  福田公墓的一名负责人告诉记者,因为福田公墓已建有80多年,因此园内有不少老墓,一部分是新中国成立之前和初期就埋葬在此的遗体墓,约占总量的13%,但占地面积在80%左右;另外一部分则是改变丧葬方式后的骨灰墓,但按规定已经超过20年的产权期,也有1500多个。


  老墓的改造和续租问题受到关注。上述负责人表示,对于七八十年前的遗体墓,因为国家层面没有相关的处理办法,所以公墓目前尽量维持现状,“想要对这部分墓进行改造遇到的问题挺多,主要是观念的问题,很多人不能接受把遗骨火化后再葬,所以我们还是尊重家属意愿。”


  而对于过了产权期的骨灰墓,该负责人告诉记者,临近清明已经有不少人咨询续租的问题,但是也有一些“过期墓”联系不到人。


  据介绍,目前福田公墓可以提供续租服务,如果承租人没有发生变化,只需携带身份证和公墓的穴位证前往办理。


  万安公墓


  目前没有家属同意接受改造


  万安公墓一处墓园里,一些十几年到二十几年的老墓,也已出现了墓碑破损的情况,周边土地有些光秃,绿化也较新墓差些。工作人员介绍,一般新墓前几年亲属来祭扫的次数多一些,往后会逐渐减少,同时也存在亲属出国不方便扫墓的情况。


  据介绍,今年清明,主动咨询续租的家属比以前多,其中几名家属还希望提前续租。对此,公墓业务员都会积极介绍并建议树葬等生态安葬政策,但目前还没有家属同意接受改造。


  不过新京报记者在万安公墓办事大厅注意到,一些在公墓寄存骨灰的家属,准备办理手续,参加海撒。


  万安公墓管理处副主任石江海表示,根据民政局的政策,原则上传统墓穴到期后不再续租,但市民接受还需要一定的过程。如果家属强烈要求续租,不接受生态改造,政策也会给一定的空间。但总的来说,万安公墓还是鼓励到期墓穴进行生态改造。


  ■ 回应


  将出台措施引导市民改造传统墓


  未来,传统的墓碑是否允许续租,北京市相关文件已经十分明确:原则上不续租。然而由于配套措施未出台,不续租的墓具体如何改造还不得而知。记者从八宝山人民公墓了解到,到期墓地可以选择立体葬的骨灰墙、骨灰深埋等方式,这些葬式收费都不高。


  市民政局副局长、新闻发言人李红兵表示,对传统习俗的改造,不是靠一刀切的方式来实现的,是通过倡导让群众真正深刻理解和切身地践行。换句话说,一定要让大家从内心非常愿意,才用这样的方式。


  李红兵称,除了要求党员干部带头示范外,北京市还将研究制定一系列奖励鼓励措施引导市民选择生态安葬改造。


  倪晓峰告诉记者,已经有市民前来咨询如果改造成生态墓能得到多少奖励,他说:“我们希望奖励措施能起到好的引导作用,更重要的是加大宣传力度,引导市民自愿选择生态葬,毕竟我们的土地是十分有限的。”


  本版采写/新京报记者 吴为 王梦遥 李婷婷



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