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Lei Yang family requested the autopsy, forensic medicine: a month to determine the cause of death

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Lei Yang family requested the autopsy Forensics: one month to determine the cause of death autopsy _ forensic | | man | news
Information: Lei Fu and prosecution staff

Original title: forensic in the Prosecutor's Office told you, autopsy what test?


"NPC master of prostitute-related death case" aroused enormous concern recently, Beijing Changping District people's Procuratorate today voice says: "prosecutors in Changping mine have been investigated in accordance with law (male, 29 years old) died after suspected prostitutes were forced by police constraint measures, participation of people's Procuratorate of Beijing will send a forensic assistance in investigations. Procuratorial organs will perform their legal supervision functions according to law, guarantee fair treatment. "


According to the "Beijing time" reported that Lei Yang's relatives have been selected third-party authentication institutions submitted to the prosecution, wanted to have the prosecutor entrusted the body autopsy. This morning 8:40, Lei Yang's wife and father to enter Beijing Changping District, Changping District people's Procuratorate began to confirm the body of Lei Yang.


Public opinion in the case after a two-day storm, progress now here, everyone seemed to be eating a reassurance, waiting for prosecution final investigation results, expect prosecutors to investigate a claim, but justice June estimated the latest development of the case, we would have to wait for some time, because the autopsy might have a lot of trouble.


To verify this, Justice King talked to one industry insider. Justice King's friend is in a province more than 10 years, a Prosecutor, a forensic x, daily work in addition to autopsy, forensic certificate comments, also in other criminal cases forensic conclusions examined, excluding error identification. Talk to him, we understand that in this case the next progress, is helping his.


Gossip does not say, and chat straight away!


Justice: the Lei Yang, why is the prosecution's forensic investigation?


Forensic x: this is because respondents are police, forensic institutions within the public security organs shall withdraw. As both players avoid public security organs, and when the referee, you can ensure a fair investigation.


Justice-June: typically, circumstances under which public prosecutor forensic investigation of the case?


Forensic x: like a functionary using his power to implement the unlawful detention, torture, revenge against violations of citizens ' personal rights, such as in the case of, when injuries and deaths occur, you need public prosecutor forensic cases involved, he would have to examine crime scene, body, etc.


Justice: the public prosecutor's Office outside of personally investigate autopsies, forensic, and to assist in the investigation, this "investigation" what does it mean?


Forensic x in some sensitive cases, in order to ensure investigations are impartial, third party accreditation body commissioned by the Attorney to examine corpses, so here, the public prosecutor's Office forensic does not personally carry out the autopsy, but the third party accreditation bodies to supervise the autopsy process and results.


Justice: the third party accreditation body who determines it?


Forensic x: this can be specified by the families of eligible third-party authentication institutions, referred to the public prosecutor for delegates.


Justice: the autopsy, depending on what test? About how long does it take to determine the cause of death?


Forensic x: to determine the cause of death, our regular testing, Anatomy test, toxicology analytical testing, alcohol testing, pathology examination of the five tests, under normal circumstances, a month to determine the cause of death.


Justice-June: why so long? Which test is most time consuming?


Forensic x: pathological investigations of the most time consuming. Because the organ is soft, we need to put the organ in formalin for ten consecutive days, organs become hard, we can cut it into very thin slices, and then sent to test whether the organ disease.


Justice-June: If, after the forensic autopsy and organ damage can immediately see, such as the apparent rupture of the spleen, in this case you can determine the cause of death?


Forensic x: in that case, we can only judge death due to rupture of the spleen, but must complete other routine tests, excluding other death possibilities to determine the ultimate cause of death.


Justice: the autopsy when other than the forensic, who will also present? Also do you have a video?


Forensic x: according to our specifications, autopsy will generally be asked 1-2 family members at the scene, but they were not allowed to take pictures and video. Autopsy video facilities on the premises, will be recorded as the autopsy process information.


Justice-June: thanks forensic x, it seems that any access to justice, access to any truth, it takes time. Such as the cause of death, it is only a link in the investigation, autopsies need so many complicated steps, so long, so in case the doubts of so many others need time to investigate. Just you wait together with you!



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雷洋家属要求尸检 法医:一个月可确定死因|嫖娼|法医|尸检_新闻资讯
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  原标题:检察院里的法医告诉你,尸检到底怎么检?


  “人大硕士涉嫖身亡案”近日备受关注,北京市昌平区人民检察院今日发声表示:“昌平检方已依法介入调查雷某(男,29岁)涉嫌嫖娼被民警采取强制约束措施后死亡事件,北京市人民检察院将派法医协助参与调查。检察机关将依法履行法律监督职责,保证依法公正处理”。


  据“北京时间”报道,雷洋的亲属已选定第三方鉴定机构提交检方,希望由检察院委托该机构进行尸检。今早8点40分,雷洋的妻子和父亲进入北京市昌平区昌平人民检察院,开始对雷洋的尸体进行确认。


  这个案件经过两天的舆论风暴,现在进展到这里,大家仿佛吃了一颗定心丸,都翘首以待检察机关最终的调查结果,期盼检察官们赶紧调查清楚给个说法,但正义君估计这个案件的最新进展,大家恐怕得等一段时间了,因为尸检恐怕得费不少功夫呢。


  为核实这个猜测,正义君找了一位业内人士聊了聊。正义君的这位朋友是在某省某市一个检察院当了十几年法医的X,日常主要工作除了进行尸检、出具司法鉴定意见之外,还要对其他刑事案件中的法医鉴定结论进行审查,排除错误鉴定结论。跟他聊聊,对于我们理解这个案子接下来的进展,是比较有帮助哒。


  闲话就不说了,直接看聊天记录吧!


  正义君:雷洋事件里,为什么是检察机关的法医来协助调查?


  法医X:这是因为调查对象是警方,所以公安机关内设的法医鉴定机构应当回避。这样避免公安机关既当运动员,又当裁判员,可以保证公正调查。


  正义君:通常,检察院的法医会在什么情况下介入案件的调查?


  法医X:一般像国家机关工作人员利用职权实施的非法拘禁、刑讯逼供、报复陷害等侵犯公民人身权利的案件中,出现伤害及死亡时,就需要检察院的法医介入案件,他会对案发现场、尸体等等进行检验。


  正义君:检察院的法医除了亲自尸检进行调查外,还要协助调查,这个“协助调查”是什么意思?


  法医X:在一些敏感案件中,为了保证调查公正,会由检察院委托第三方鉴定机构对尸体进行检验,所以在这里,检察院的法医不会亲自进行尸检,而是对第三方鉴定机构的尸检过程及结果进行监督。


  正义君:那第三方鉴定机构由谁确定呢?


  法医X:这个可以由家属指定符合条件的第三方鉴定机构,交由检察院进行委托。


  正义君:如果进行尸检,一般具体要做哪些检验?大概需要多久可以确定死亡原因?


  法医X:为确定死亡原因,我们常规会做尸表检验、解剖检验、毒物分析检验、酒精检验、病理学检验这五类检验,一般情况下,一个月的时间就可以确定死亡原因了。


  正义君:为什么这么久?哪一项检验是最费时间的?


  法医X:病理学检验最耗时间。因为脏器拿出来是软的,我们需要把脏器泡在福尔马林里十来天,脏器变硬,我们才能切成非常薄的切片,然后送去检验脏器是否有病变。


  正义君:如果法医解剖尸体后,立马就能看见脏器损坏,比如脾脏明显破裂,这种情况下可以确定死亡原因吗?


  法医X:这种情况下,我们只能初步判断死亡原因是脾脏破裂,但还得必须完成其他常规检验项目,排除其他致死可能性之后,才能确定最终死亡原因。


  正义君:尸检的时候,除了法医之外,还会有哪些人在场?也会有同步录像吗?


  法医X:根据我们的工作规范,尸检时会一般会要求1-2名家属在现场,但是不允许他们拍照及录像。尸检场所有录像设施,会把尸检过程全部录下来作为资料。


  正义君:谢谢法医X,由此看来,任何公正的获得,任何真相的获得,都是需要时间的。比如死亡原因,这仅是案件调查中的一个环节而已,尸检尚需要这么多繁复的步骤,这么长时间,那么案件中其他那么多的疑点更需要时间去调查清楚。正义君和大家一起拭目以待!



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