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published in(发表于) 2016/5/15 6:17:49
Pick up a thousand phone, women return for 800 Yuan payment was ridicule,

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Pick up a thousand phone, the woman returned for 800 honorarium was spit Groove-mobile phone, remuneration-IT information

Public after the bears lost a cell phone, contact person Chua, Xiong promised to give each other a certain payment token of appreciation, both about time and place the return of mobile phones. This is a happy thing, but because both sides dispute the amount of the remuneration, until the bears to police.

Is greatly to say virtue when we picked up and returned to the property of others, is there any right to ask for payment? Remuneration is there a limit? This reporter conducted interviews.

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The day before yesterday afternoon, Han, shapingba district, Chongqing bus station, next to a man and a woman on the platform had a bad quarrel, attracted a large number of people watching.

Originally, Xiong Samsung phone in jiulongpo district yangjiaping Zoo lost that day, went home after the discovery. Holding a try, Xiong dialed his cell phone, surnamed CAI, Lady answered the phone, saying he picked up Mr bear cell phone. After the two said a few words, Xiong agreed to Chua proposed giving some reward to return the mobile phone requirements. Later, the two men arranged to meet in the Han, shapingba district, Chongqing bus station.

But two people meet, Chua asked Xiong to 800 Yuan paid by Mr bear flat out refused .

Xiong said not for refusing to give, but think of the Samsung phone has been used for years but thousands Yuan worth, Chua asked for too high a honorarium of 800 Yuan. Chua believes that from shapingba district of jiulongpo district yangjiaping arrived Han Yu Lu, not only wasting your time, money should also be included in the remuneration.

Argument she made it clear that, if not for 800 Yuan, he will not put the phone back to bear. "Although the phone itself is worthless, but all know that inside the phone information is missing, such as a problem. "She couldn't--understand the meaning of the intangible value of this mobile phone is far higher than the phone itself.

Or back to their cell phones, Xiong Xian but had to choose the alarm. 110, shapingba district police quickly arrived on the scene.

Due to the bear and Mr Chua disagree, arguing the fierce, resulting in a large number of people watching, police at this juncture to lead the two sides to continue consultations within the police. "You pick up the phone and ask for restitution must be paid is reasonable. "The police tell Chua," However, in accordance with the legal provisions, keepers have lost properties returned to the right holder's obligation. The lost property, person shall notify the right holder to receive or sent to the Public Security Bureau and other relevant departments. ”

Xiong told police he was willing to give Chua rewards, but 800 is too high. Coordinated by the police, the two sides will eventually fix the contract gratuity of 500 Yuan, bears in police testimony, delivery fee back after a lost cell phone.

Police told reporters yesterday that the parties, with the rapid development of the society, increasingly frequent population flow, significantly increase the risk of lost items, lost items Finder for safekeeping or restitution of stolen property will produce a variety of expenses. Real right law of China provides that when the right people get lost, should be lost to people or departments concerned to pay necessary expenses incurred such as safekeeping. "However, is the traditional virtue of Chinese nation greatly, we first need to advocate finds lost property handed over to the police or to the police station . ”

Lawyer claims

Cable greatly reward pick up payment should be punished

Zeng Jie Chongqing evening news News lawyers lawyers said in an interview yesterday, not explicitly required by the law to pick up something when you return how much should you ask for reward, but should carry forward the traditional virtues of greatly. People who pick up things, you can ask for a certain amount of transportation costs or delay compensation. In law, regardless of the other party to give rewards, Finder must return stolen property, or a violation of the criminal law.

112th article 1th of the property law stipulates: when the right person lost, should be lost to people or departments concerned to pay necessary expenses incurred such as safekeeping. 2nd paragraph: rights holders offered a reward for the lost property, collect lost property should be in accordance with the commitment to meet their obligations. In other words, the owner in the case of a reward, must pay Finder fees as promised. In the case of not offering a reward, keepers can also ask the owner for money, but the money is not a reward, but keepers in safekeeping when costs, such as loss of fees, money, etc. If the person due to the owner not to give custody to court, keepers have to have proof that their requests are generated due to the safekeeping.

Zeng Jie said, need to be reminded of is that pick up things must be returned. Picked up if not submitted, not returned, will be subject to punishment . Of the property law of the 3rd paragraph of the 112th article: Finder occupation of lost property, the right to request for safekeeping and other costs, have no right to request the right holder in accordance with the commitment to meet their obligations. In other words, keepers tried to lost property as their own, once discovered, the owner would not have to carry out their promises to offer a reward. In addition, the real right Act also stipulates that the finds must also, and take care of, if the amount of refusing to return, suspected of embezzlement.

Overall, according to the legal provisions in force, when the owner received property, shall pay a reward to the Finder's reward. Is not a reward, the owner has no legal obligation to pay compensation, but should pay the lost man costs incurred for safekeeping.

Know a little more

Restitution of lost foreign rewards

Germany

Article No. 971 of the German Civil Code stipulates:

(A) the person may require rights holders to accept to pay Finder rewards. Lost properties valued at 1000 Germany Deutsche marks (euros before the Germany currency--Editor's note), which paid for the value of 5%; above that number, the portion calculated by 3%; animals as the value of 3%.

(B) found in violation of the reporting obligation or hide lost properties when you ask, these claims will destroy.

Japan

Article 4th of the lost property Act:

Items returned should be not less than item price 5% 20% rewards gold objects, not more than the price paid in person. However, the public corporation may not request reward payments.

(Original title: woman finds a thousand phone return for 800 honorarium)


捡到一部千元手机,女子归还索要八百元酬金遭吐槽 - 手机,酬金 - IT资讯

市民熊先生遗失一部手机后,联系到拾得人蔡女士,熊先生承诺给对方一定酬金以示感谢,双方便约好时间地点归还手机。这本是一件皆大欢喜的事情,不料双方却因酬金的数额引发纠纷,直至熊先生报警求助。

都说拾金不昧是美德,我们在捡到并归还别人的失物时,到底有没有权利索要报酬?报酬有没有限额?记者对此进行了采访。

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前天下午,沙坪坝区汉渝路公交站,一男一女在站台旁争吵得厉害,引来大量市民围观。

原来,熊先生的三星手机当天在九龙坡区杨家坪动物园附近丢失了,回家后才发现。抱着试一试的心态,熊先生拨打了自己的手机,一位姓蔡的女士接听了电话,称自己捡到了熊先生的手机。两人说了几句话后,熊先生同意了蔡女士提出的给一些酬劳就归还手机的要求。随后,两人约定在沙坪坝区汉渝路公交站见面。

谁知两人一见面,蔡女士就要求熊先生给800元酬劳,遭到熊先生严词拒绝

熊先生表示,不是自己不愿给,而是认为这部已使用多年的三星手机价值不过千元,蔡女士索要酬金800元太高了。蔡女士则认为,自己从九龙坡区杨家坪赶到沙坪坝区汉渝路,不仅浪费了自己的时间,车马费也应算在酬金里。

争吵中蔡女士明确表示,如果不给800元,自己不会把手机还给熊先生。“手机本身虽然不值钱,但都知道里面存的电话等信息丢失了很麻烦。”蔡女士的意思再明白不过了——这部手机的无形价值远高于手机本身。

眼看要不回自己的手机,熊先生无奈之下只得选择报警。沙坪坝区110民警迅速赶到现场。

由于熊先生和蔡女士各持己见,争辩激烈,导致现场大量市民围观,民警见状立即带领双方到警车内继续协商。“你捡到手机归还并索要一定酬劳是合情合理的。”民警告诉蔡女士,“不过,按照法律规定,拾得人有将拾得物返还权利人的义务。拾得遗失物,拾得人应当及时通知权利人领取,或者送交公安等有关部门。”

熊先生告诉民警,自己愿意给蔡女士酬劳,但800元实在太高了。经民警协调,双方最终将酬金定为500元,熊先生在民警的见证下交付酬金后拿回了遗失的手机

当事民警昨日接受记者采访时称,随着社会快速发展,人口流动日益频繁,人们丢失物品的几率大为增加,遗失物品拾得者为保管或归还失物会产生各种费用。我国《物权法》规定,权利人在领取遗失物时,应当向拾得人或者有关部门支付保管遗失物等支出的必要费用。“不过,拾金不昧是中华民族传统美德,我们首先要提倡捡到失物交给民警或交到派出所。”

律师说法

拾金不昧可索酬劳拾金而昧要受处罚

重庆晚报新闻律师团律师曾杰昨日接受记者采访时表示,法律上没有明确规定捡到东西归还时应该索要多少酬劳,但应发扬拾金不昧的传统美德。捡到东西的人,可以索要一定的交通费用或误工费。在法律上,不管对方给不给酬劳,拾得者都要返还失物,否则就触犯了刑法。

《物权法》第112条第1款规定:权利人领取遗失物时,应当向拾得人或者有关部门支付保管遗失物等支出的必要费用。第2款规定:权利人悬赏寻找遗失物的,领取遗失物时应当按照承诺履行义务。也就是说,失主在悬赏的情况下,必须按照承诺付给拾得人酬金。在未悬赏的情况下,拾得人也可以向失主索要金钱,但这里的金钱不是酬金,而是拾得人在保管遗失物时所支出的费用,比如误工费、车马费等。如果拾得人因失主不给保管费用而告到法庭,拾得人必须要有证据证明自己所要求的费用是因保管遗失物而必须产生的。

曾杰说,需要提醒的是,捡到东西必须归还。如果捡到东西不上交、不归还,将会受到处罚。《物权法》第112条第3款规定:拾得人侵占遗失物的,无权请求保管遗失物等支出的费用,也无权请求权利人按照承诺履行义务。也就是说,拾得人企图把遗失物占为己有,一经发现,失主便不用履行自己悬赏的承诺。此外,《物权法》还规定,捡到东西必须还,而且要保管好,如果金额大拒不退还的,涉嫌侵占罪。

总的来说,依据我国现行法律规定,失主在领取遗失物时,应当向拾得人支付悬赏的报酬。未悬赏的,失主没有法定义务支付报酬,但应支付拾得人为保管遗失物而支出的费用。

多知道点

归还遗失之物外国这样酬谢

德国

《德国民法典》第971条规定:

(一)拾得人可以要求受领权利人支付拾得人报酬。拾得物的价值在1000德国马克(使用欧元前的德国货币——编者注)以下的,其报酬为该价值5%;超过此数的,超过部分按3%计算;动物为价值的3%。

(二)拾得人违反报告义务或在询问时隐瞒拾得物的,上述请求权即告消灭。

日本

《遗失物法》第4条:

受物件返还者,应将不少于物件价格5%、不多于物件价格20%的酬劳金给付于拾得人。但是,公法人不得请求酬劳金。

(原标题:女子捡到一部千元手机 归还索要八百酬金)






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