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Why there are questions about the film footage of the three-body sucks can not use? Trisomy, Trisomy films-IT information

Yesterday the news of the three-body we all know it, source production company broke the news of the three-body swim pictures CEO hole two dog has left, the release date of the three-body put off indefinitely. Subsequently, the rumor said that the films in post-production, all goes well, the delay was normal but will be released.

That's not the point, we Grill opened the fog of news and see hard science fiction where is the biggest difficulty of the three-body.

Of the three body front and back home special effects company, somewhat wide of the mark

Pheasant says not, and some of them are not the same.

Liu cixin is a series created the three-body length science fiction trilogy, are as follows: the three bodies, and the three-body II ? dark wood, III of the three-body ? death eternal life. The three-body is a classic of hard science fiction, about Earth civilization and three stars outside the solar system civilizations against the story.

Changes of hard science fiction films, special effects and ultimately, the effects of the three-body has been replaced for a total of two, by Mindy replace VHQ media.

In accordance with the previous release, is invited by the three-body "making of the avatar, Harry Potter, juveniles and other masterpieces of international top VFX team VHQ" to undertake specific tasks.

But in fact, VHQ late is not a focus on film special effects company, the company is headquartered in Viet Nam, Singapore, and Malaysia, and Indonesia, with branch offices of China, areas of work include television commercials, TV programs, radio ads and other media effects production services.

On its official Web site, "selected works", it is also not the avatar, and Harry Potter and the shadow of the juvenile, the only one and film-related works from the nine-story Monster Tower of ghost blows.

According to Wikipedia, the movie avatar is one of the leading visual effects company of New Zealand and special effects company Weta Digital, the company produced special effects of the avatar times employs more than 900 people (movie artists hired a total of 1855). While in the avatar of all credits on IMDb website information page, hundreds of cast and crew, no display from VHQ company, while "Weta Digital" related words there were 918.

According to Wikipedia, the movie Visual effects of the juvenile the leading company for Rhythm & Hues Studios (abbreviated as R&H), others involve special effects company including MPC, yU+co, Buf, Crazy Horse Effects, and Look Effects, and Christov Effects, Lola VFX, Reliance Mediaworks, and Stereo d And the CAVE (Cloud Animation and Visual Effects) that there is no VHQ ... ... But also, in the film's IMDb credits information, these companies have, but "VHQ" information for 0.

Harry Potter is not stripped, the series too much, too much work ... ... Interested in may, but the results of the above film, "making of the avatar, Harry Potter and teen fantasy life of international top VFX team VHQ masterpieces such as" is kind of lame, not of the nine-story Monster Tower will not be placed in the Home as a representative of the film.

And then the three-body to replace VHQ Ming di of the VFX team media, even less information, official website of the "work" page as a "collection of video", however, and it won't open. "Company news" only in two sections, one in October 2014, opened offices in San Francisco, one in October 2015, Shanghai office opened.

Think about the effects that may be involved in the three-body, I think the avatar should be above par, the juvenile pie, effects, working too much, but look at the effects of the three-body company, I personally do not have much confidence. (To hear the effects of the three-body funding are not particularly strong

We recall that the end of 2014, the swim pictures has made commitments "will introduce the Hollywood team to participate in production, to show you one well-made, highly restored epic domestic science fiction masterpiece" ... ...

Not much of the three-body information, was the quality of slag, the plagiarism question

The directors of the three bodies, prior to the film of the three-body, directed two TV series, four films, but never directed sci-fi movie. Also in today's news "of the three bodies of the material cannot be used" hearsay, the team later clarified, "Director Zhang finished shooting better, no material can not be used".

Zhang Yimou's early footage filmed how the quality is unknown, but in the science fiction film-making, shooting really is essential, in many cases, need to be involved in shooting the VFX team, provides professional guidance, so as not to make "late save" screen.

Baidu stick users gqy6322 in "three body movie" stick in the pointed out that, from three body of tablets field in the Green scene folds, and light insufficient, and blue scene Qian of dust will to late effects brings is big of trouble, "green scene not in behind hanging a green scene then period buckle like for background on line has, green scene synthesis also to consider to prospects of layout, lights...... I do not say, just deal with the welter of dust, enough people drink a pot in the late. ”

(Movie special effects of the three-body field)

(Compare the film searching Dragon Jue special effects Studio)

Blue screen green screen problem is probably trivial, knew the netizens Zi Xuan thinks at present, including the three Chinese hard science fiction movie most lack is a science fiction concept designer.

Many science-fiction movies need to be the moment something that does not exist, then, we need science fiction concept designer design. Like the three body paragraphs of the story takes place in "200 years of the cultural revolution", so there are a lot of scenarios, the goods will be the product of the distant future. In this part of the story of film, even a simple scene, will also need to use a lot of special effects, "200 years of the cultural revolution" of the streets, buildings, vehicles, space vehicles, and so on need to be redesigned, even clothing, cell phones, computers have changed dramatically.

Currently published in the three-body was a concept trailer in 1 minute 02 seconds long, the most "science fiction concept" designs to the number below the picture. But in this picture the red box architecture were copied Belgium architect Vincent works Lilypad-The Floating City of Callebeut in 2008.

(The concept of the three-body trailer screenshots)

(Lilypad-The Floating City)

In addition, the poster of the three-body also is accused of copying the inception.

At present, the audience of local effects can be said to be journey long Jue, journey of the Dragon-part shooting August 2014, released in December 2015, the whole period amounts to 1 year and 4 months. The three bodies estimated also intends to press the pace to March 2015 start, had been expected to release in July 2016, but unfortunately, current release date as early as next year.

The three-body can shoot, not just fan fan interest, the national team has raised a lot of attention.

On November 12, 2015, the CPC Central Committee, Vice Chairman Li yuanchao told tour network Chairman and CEO Lynch says, be sure to make a quality film of the three-body, made par to Hollywood, this movie as a business card, a Chinese film ranks among the world's top level business card.

You see, the team expect the three-body comparable to a Hollywood movie, audiences will not reduce requirements for watching Hollywood movies, in fact, of the three-body pressure is not small.


为啥有人质疑《三体》电影素材太烂不能用? - 三体,三体电影 - IT资讯

昨天《三体》的新闻大家都知道了吧,有信源爆料《三体》制作公司游族影业CEO孔二狗已离职,《三体》的上映日期无限期延后。随后,片方辟谣说,影片后期制作中,一切顺利,推迟很正常但一定会上映。

这不是关键,我们扒拉开这些新闻迷雾,看看硬科幻《三体》最大的难度在哪里。

《三体》前后两家特效公司,有些不靠谱

野鸡公司称不上,只是和他们宣传的有些不一样。

《三体》是刘慈欣创作的系列长篇科幻小说,共有三部,分别为:《三体》、《三体Ⅱ·黑暗森林》、《三体Ⅲ·死神永生》。《三体》是一个很典型的硬科幻,讲了地球文明和太阳系外的三体星文明对抗的故事。

硬科幻改变的电影作品,特效少不了,《三体》的电影特效前后共换过两家,由VHQ换成了明迪传媒。

按照之前的通稿,《三体》邀请的是“制作过《阿凡达》、《哈利·波特》、《少年派》等巨作的国际顶级特效团队VHQ”来承担特效任务。

但实际上,VHQ并不是一间专注于电影后期特效的公司,该公司总部位于越南,在新加坡、马来西亚、印度尼西亚、中国设有分公司,工作领域包括电视广告、电视节目、电台广告等都媒体特效制作服务。

在其官方网站的“精选作品”下,也并没有《阿凡达》、《哈利·波特》和《少年派》的影子,唯一一个和电影相关的作品来自《鬼吹灯之九层妖塔》。

据维基百科,电影《阿凡达》的视觉特效的主导公司为一间新西兰的特效公司Weta Digital,这家公司在制作《阿凡达》的特效时共雇佣了900多人(整部电影特效师共雇佣1855人)。同时在《阿凡达》的IMDb网站所有演职员信息页面中,上千个演职人员,没有一个显示来自VHQ公司,而“Weta Digital”相关字样共出现918条。

再据维基百科,电影《少年派》的视觉特效主导公司为Rhythm & Hues Studios(简称为R&H),其他涉及到的特效公司还包括MPC、yU+co、Buf、Crazy Horse Effects、Look Effects、Christov Effects、Lola VFX、Reliance Mediaworks、Stereo D、CAVE(Cloud Animation and Visual Effects),就是没有VHQ......而且同样,在该电影的IMDb演职员信息也中,上述公司都有,但“VHQ”的相关信息为0。

《哈利·波特》就不扒了,系列太多,工作量太大......感兴趣的可以跟进,但就上面两个电影的结果看,“制作过《阿凡达》、《哈利·波特》、《少年派的奇幻漂流》等巨作的国际顶级特效团队VHQ”的说法有些站不住脚,不然也不会将《九层妖塔》放在首页作为电影作品代表作。

而后来《三体》用来替换VHQ特效团队的明迪传媒,信息则更少,官网上的“作品”页面为一个“作品集视频”,然而,也并点不开。“公司新闻”中只有两条内容,一条是2014年10月,旧金山办公室开张,一条是2015年10月,上海办公室开张。

想想《三体》所可能涉及的特效,我认为应该是可以与上面的《阿凡达》、《少年派》比肩的,特效工作只多不少,但看目前《三体》的特效公司,我个人感觉信心不大。(听说《三体》的特效经费也不是特别充分

我们再回忆一下,2014年底,游族影业曾做出的承诺:“将引入好莱坞团队参与制作,为大家呈现一部制作精良、高度还原的史诗级国产科幻大作”......

不多的《三体》信息,却引来了质量渣、抄袭的质疑

《三体》的导演张番番,在做《三体》电影之前,执导过两部电视剧、四部电影,但从没执导过科幻电影。也因此有了今天的新闻中“《三体》的素材不能用”的传闻,后来团队澄清“张番番导演较好地完成了前期拍摄,绝不存在素材不能用”。

张导的前期素材拍摄质量究竟如何不得而知,不过在科幻电影的制作中,前期拍摄的确至关重要,很多时候,特效团队需要参与前期拍摄,提供专业指导,以免拍出“后期都挽救不了”的画面。

百度贴吧网友gqy6322在“三体电影”贴吧中指出,从《三体》的片场中绿幕褶皱、光线不足、蓝幕前的灰尘都会给后期特效带来很大的麻烦,“绿幕不是在后面挂一块绿幕然后期扣像换背景就行了,绿幕合成还要考虑到前景的布置,灯光......别的我不说,就单单处理那些飞扬的尘土,就够后期人员喝一壶的。”

(电影《三体》特效片场)

(对比电影《寻龙诀》特效片场)

其实蓝幕绿幕的问题可能还是小事,知乎网友梓轩认为,目前包括《三体》在内的中国硬科幻电影最缺少是科幻概念设计师。

很多科幻电影需要出现当下不存在的东西,这时,就需要科幻概念设计师提供设计方案。比如《三体》中有段故事发生在“文革后的200年”,所以有大量场景、物品都将是远距离未来的产物。在影视化这部分故事时,即使简单的一个场景,也需要使用大量的特效镜头,“文革后的200年”的街道、建筑、车、宇宙飞行器等等都需要重新设计,甚至服装、手机、电脑都有巨大变化。

目前《三体》只公布了一款概念预告片,在1分02秒的时长里,最有“科幻概念”的设计要数以下这幅图了。但这幅图中红框内建筑却被指抄袭比利时建筑设计师Vincent Callebeut在2008年的作品Lilypad-The Floating City。

(《三体》概念预告截图)

(Lilypad-The Floating City)

另外,《三体》的海报也被指抄袭《盗梦空间》。

目前,观众认可的本土特效片可以说是《寻龙诀》,《寻龙诀》2014年8月开拍,2015年12月上映,整个周期共计一年零4个月。《三体》估计也是打算按着这个节奏来,2015年3月开机,曾预计2016年7月上映,但很遗憾,目前上映日期最早也在明年。

《三体》能不能拍好,不只影迷书迷关心,国家队也曾提出了高度关注。

2015年11月12日,中共中央政治局委员、国家副主席李源潮曾对游族网络董事长、CEO林奇说,一定要把《三体》做成一部高质量的电影,制作水准要向好莱坞看齐,把这部电影打造成一张名片,一张让中国电影跻身世界顶尖水平的名片。

你看,国家队指望《三体》媲美好莱坞电影,看惯好莱坞电影的观众也不会降低要求,其实《三体》的压力也不小。






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