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On December 11 news, millet Tech CEO Lei Jun, and movie star Andy Lau, both in their respective areas, "model worker", launched today at Qinghua University this afternoon campaign called "life into a WarZone" dialogue.
For full dialogue summary below:
Host: what is the trick you Andy Lau, Lei June?
Andy LAU: handsome Ah ... ... (Full boil), my best place is my personality, I continue to have some good works only last a dozen years. I can share with my personality. I wasn't really all that good, if there was a secret brother Lei June must be very ill.
Lei June: Hello, under a lot of pressure with Andy Lau. I know everyone's applause is Andy Lau just now. (Once again, applause) courses I completed all sophomore, junior to start a business. All these years I am a revolutionary, why did I survive? How can a person become common? Must have their own dreams.
Host: how was your character?
Lei June: Internet personality is different from reality, grab the millet is 3 character.
Andy LAU: I learned I'm not character.
Question: what is the biggest obstacle is your success?
Lei June: Tsinghua students angelically people self-confidence, self-confidence on it at your own risk. When I was young, proud, did a lot of things against Heaven. After more than 40 years, I learned to ride. Need to think big, just like I talked about before the Typhoon came, pigs can fly. If attitude can keep a pig, can be successful.
Andylau: I would like to talk about, he said. Success means you can accept failure. What is worst is that you may think you have succeeded. I'm the pig (audience laughs).
Lei June: Mr Liu's very kind of you, when I was in College, you are my Idol (audience laughs). I think Andy has inspired us to work hard for a generation.
Moderator: confronted with adversity you stick it?
Andy LAU: I am strong, I hope everything can do 80 minutes. When I was singing and dancing Act, would spend a lot of time, I just didn't want to lose. I think do not want to lose the three-word should stay in my head, and this will motivate you to succeed. Do not want to lose doesn't mean you don't lose, if I run into lost time, where fall, never straight back on, be sure to get up to where nobody. Society is now so that if you fall, it is important to find a resting place and nobody.
Lei June: I started out quite early. When we 1996, Microsoft's entry into China, Jinshan before us after Microsoft piracy, then life is very difficult. During that time we went crazy, we bubble when the owner of the Forum online, 300 a day stickers, each post not less than 100 words. I played half a year later, decided to face the reality to come out. In 1997 we started a second business.
Andy LAU: hiring not best, sometimes you don't even know how to use them, most of the people around me told me about. Management is not how good you are, but you can find people to help you share. When I do wrong, is to talk about yourself in the mirror. For erring colleague and I will give him a chance, but if not, then don't use him.
Lei June: join me when I was young are anxious, then I have to praise people behind the criticism.
Business advice?
Lei June: entrepreneurship is who I am, the past few University entrepreneurial success story. China and the United States the gap is very large, I recommend that students do not venture, the success probability is very low. I hire the most important two things: willing to learn, willing to do it.
Andy LAU: I is the main character. You find a good, if you are uncomfortable with it or leave it. I'm not unfit for business. I am willing to learn who is willing to do. 91-95 year I lost over 40 million HK dollars, 99, I very hard, is because I want to pay their debts. 2000 years later, I'm all over again.
Andy LAU: would you vote for my company? You be excited?
Lei June: we are very excited.
Moderator: how to be a good boss?
Lei June: boss-Cao Cao, Liu Bei, and so on. Cao Cao is an in-depth field, an army fighting. Liu Bei is the big brother to find talented brothers.
Host: what have you guys got to ask each other what?
Lei June: when I was in College, bought the cassettes of the love of Andy Lau of Wired. I would like to ask Andy Lau, mobile Internet changed lives in the past five years, have you ever thought about using the mobile Internet to shape your work?
Andy LAU: I must have failed the exam. I really don't know. I never use the telephone, but face to face, and I was too backward people. Want to change the movie business, I've got to take your time for advice. Hong Kong is becoming more and more difficult.
Lei June: on the phone network drama wouldn't it be more simple?
Andy LAU: micro film is next for Hong Kong movies or don't get a chance to fund friends. Many brands can leverage micro-movie mode in the future. I think that really is the way forward. But when it comes to what to do, I'm really not ... ...
Lei June: do you have a micro film plan for investment?
Andy LAU: I think I'll need you to develop, slowly you can find opportunities for cooperation. I am afraid of cell phones, has just started with your fingers when intelligent machines, I was afraid of kids playing smart devices by hand every day, will become a finger long ET.
Moderator: Andy Lau had asked Lei June?
Andy LAU: people always ask me when I retire, why you came back after retirement?
Lei June: my kingsoft very hard, everyone says I'm a model worker. I listed as an end in Jinshan, and when I got to the top, very lonely so bored, so he retired. When I was 40 years old birthday, remember there is a 18 year old dream, so he founded the millet.
Moderator: Andy Lau when he decides to retire?
Andy LAU: when I was listing.
Andy LAU: Lei June frock that you plan it says is good. My fans know, I, that dress stayed with me for years, and I put little in Shenyang, a frock so they got in the car to me. It didn't think the car was red carpet, I can only go down, then slowly took off ... ...
Live interaction
Audience: now a lot of stars do have mobile phones, have you thought about working with Lei June, China Mobile?
Andy LAU: I think I was very much hope that our Chinese products go to the world. If there is a chance, I will go to research. But I will not take the initiative to do this kind of thing.
Audience: I am a student and want to go to your practice, your practice standards?
Andy LAU: you can come to my company.
Audience: I am also a student, but I'm not here to find a job. Two very early venture succeeded, but why not encourage the students ' entrepreneurship?
Lei June: I am not discouraged entrepreneurship, but not encouraged in school, and newly graduated College students ' undertaking. United States many world class companies, was founded by University students. But China's University education for entrepreneurship, second is the process of starting startups is more difficult. I see a lot of college students borrow money from businesses, at very high pressures, anxieties are easy. If you experience business failure rate is very high, or bosses big time, but it's very difficult.
Andy LAU: you do not worry. We develop a lot of new directors, after when you're a Director, life will never come back. There are many new directors, and for many years as a screenwriter, Assistant Director and actors. If you are not able to, I want you to do, your life will be ruined. No industry is making money, only if you do not, you must learn how to study in college.
Audience: I am from Taiwan reporters, today, I would like to ask if the two have a chance to swap identities, and what you want to do?
Andy LAU: (suddenly asked Lei June) did you get married? You go first, I was thinking about it.
Lei June: things may be the last thing I want to do, is if I can help some who have just joined the film industry of the forces nouvelles, and become the next generation of stars. Everyone's time is limited, and to let the spirit of Andy Lau, generation upon generation.
Andy LAU: if I had the opportunity to swap, I'm going to sit down Lei June Office, go to the company to know how technology works, how a complete workflow. I study hard, hoping one day to become "Lei Feng".
Audience: today both on top of life, from small to large, how did your life change?
Lei June: when I was 18 years old and want to be a world-class technology company like jobs. Then when I made millet, that can make products that users love is more important.
Andy LAU: I was born in the countryside, from the age of six. When I was a kid wanted to be a farmer, had failed. When I was 18 years old, wrote many plays, to NBC direct. Results into courses, teachers told me: you are going to be an actor. Failed again. Later, I began to see their ability to prepare slowly slowly, so they will be too far from the success. I have not yet decided on ideal of life, now replaced the entire family to another State. Still adjusting himself.
Audience: if I were people like Andy-to, but not a very good idea, Ray will you vote for me? You're a vote or vote project? Did you cast a female-dominated entrepreneurial teams?
Lei June: angel investor is the most important vote in person, rather than voting project. A good man, and the probability of success will be much higher. For me, the happiest thing, is to know a couple of entrepreneurs who have to close their eyes to write a check. If Andy Lau agreed, I can green light today to invest in his company, start price, I definitely do not bargain. Female entrepreneurs on the market is relatively small, Wang Xiujuan Tsinghua Alumni I have ever voted in the street network.
Audience: I look at Andy Lau's two films this year, Fuchun Ray, blind ... ...
Andy LAU: blind "Army", right (audience laughter)
Audience: more mines and more "Army" of what you are?
Andy LAU: each artist's work, not always able to do so. I feel like I'm in the process of enjoying, I know where there is a problem, but there are some things we can't change, I hope that everyone can accept. I have a new piece, hope you tell me mine is relatively "Army".
Audience: two decades of what family life important?
Andylau: I would choose family men. And then a lot of people are concerned about, but if you were my wife, you will find it very happy.
Lei June: Mr LAU said very well, I very much support.
Audience: boys ' sweet-can you believe it?
Andy LAU: don't believe that actually worked.
Audience: we have heard the Thunder have never been referred to Sun Quan's boss, what kind of boss you are?
Lei June: millet, I have been doing, the most important thing is my favorite, this is a very happy thing. Today millet is what I personally do, type, said, I'm more of a devil, deep, personally to go to war.
Audience: I was to Andy Lau here today, post a while ago said you was one of the stars with the highest EQ IQ. How does your image and emotional control? Also wanted to ask Lei June, I'm not a rice, can you give me three reasons to like millet?
Andy LAU: I take offense, when I get home, I take offense, because those people will forgive me, but not outside. And temper can solve the problem very much. Some people in the world, to be true to everyone, but at the same time should take care of other people's feelings. You really can be done in a private space to communicate with people.
Lei June: millet set up only 3.5 years, still a lot to be desired. Trying to impress you might have difficulties. But millet is different from other companies, we are willing to make friends with every consumer, we're friends and users.
Audience: I stood up numerous times before they get one more chance. Mountain now take many children wear a little thin, you can think about the next target to do charity and public welfare?
Andy: Andy Lau Charitable Fund for almost 30 years. We have been doing charity. You referred to our willingness to participate in volunteer activities.
Lei June: millet is very much involved in the charity event, you referred to public service activities, we are willing to participate.
雷军：抢到小米3有人品 刘德华：那我没人品 - 雷军,刘德华,将人生变成战场 - IT资讯雷军：抢到小米3有人品 刘德华：那我没人品
12月11日下午消息，小米科技CEO雷军和影视明星刘德华，两位各自领域的“劳模”，今日下午在清华大学展开一场名为“将人生变成战场”的对话。
以下为对话实录摘要：
主持人：你们成为刘德华、雷军的绝招是什么？
刘德华：帅啊……(全场沸腾)我最成功的地方是我的人品，我最近十几年才陆续有一些好的作品。我可以跟大家分享一下我的人品。其实我不是大家想像的那么厉害，如果说什么秘诀，雷军大哥一定很厉害。
雷军：大家好，跟刘德华同台压力很大。我知道大家刚才的掌声都是给刘德华的。(再次掌声)我大二就修完所有的课程，大三开始创业。这么多年我也算是老革命，我为什么能生存下来？一个普通人怎么变得不普通呢？一定要有自己的梦想。
主持人：那你人品怎么样？
雷军：互联网的人品跟现实不一样，抢到小米3就是有人品。
刘德华：我才知道我是没人品的。
问题：哪些是你成功最大的阻碍？
雷军：清华学子绝顶聪明，这群人自信，自信过了之后就会自负。我年轻的时候很自负，做了很多逆天的事情。40多岁之后，我领悟到顺势而为。要想大成的话，就像我之前讲的台风来了，猪都可以飞。如果能保持猪一样的态度，也能成功。
刘德华：我想讲的他都讲了。成功就是你可以接受失败。什么叫最失败，就是你自以为你已经成功了。我现在就是那头猪(全场笑)。
雷军：刘先生你太客气了，我上大学的时候，你就是我的偶像(全场笑)。我觉得刘德华激励了我们一代人勤奋工作。
主持人：遇到逆境你们怎么坚持下来的？
刘德华：我好强，每件事情我希望都能做到80分。我在唱歌跳舞演戏的时候，会花很多时间，我只是不想输。我觉得不想输三个字一定要停留在脑袋里，这样才会激励你成功。不想输不代表你不输，如果我碰到输的时候，在哪里跌倒，千万不要在哪里爬起来，一定要到没人的地方爬起来。现在社会就是这样，如果你跌倒了，一定要找个没人的地方休息一下。
雷军：我出道比较早。我们1996年的时候，微软进入中国，我们金山前有微软后有盗版，那时候的日子非常难过。那段时间我们很郁闷，我们在网上泡论坛当斑竹，每天能发300个贴，每个帖子不少于100个字。我玩了半年之后，才决定面对现实走出来。1997年我们开始第二次创业。
刘德华：招人不要找最好的，有时候你都不知道怎么用他们，我身边的人大部分跟我差不多。管理不是你有多厉害，而是你能找到帮你分担的人。我做错的时候，也会对着镜子骂自己。对于犯错的同事我会给他机会，但如果发现改不了，那就不要用他。
雷军：我年轻的时候性子急，后来我都当面表扬人，背后批评。
创业忠告？
雷军：我就是在大学创业的人，过去很少有大学创业成功的典范。中国和美国差距很大，我建议大学生不要创业，成功概率非常低。我招人最重要的两条：肯学、肯干。
刘德华：我还是主要看人品。你找到一个再厉害的，如果在一起难受的话还是不行。我不是很适合做生意。我就是肯学肯干的人。91-95年我亏了4000万港币，99年之前我很勤奋，是因为我要还债。2000年之后，我才重头再来。
刘德华：你会不会投我公司？你会不会激动？
雷军：我们已经很激动了。
主持人：怎么当好老板？
雷军：老板有曹操型、刘备型等。曹操型是能够深入一线，带兵打仗。刘备型是大哥，要找到能干的兄弟。
主持人：你们俩人有什么要互相问的么？
雷军：我上大学的时候，买了刘德华的盒带《爱的连线》。我想问下刘德华，过去五年移动互联网改变了生活，你有没有想过用移动互联网改造你的工作？
刘德华：我一定是不及格。我真的不懂。我工作的时候从来不用电话，而是喜欢面对面，我是太落后的人。想要改变电影行业，我得向你慢慢讨教。香港电影现在越来越难。
雷军：在手机上拍网络剧会不会更简单？
刘德华：微电影一定是下一个，给香港电影或者拿不到很大基金朋友的机会。以后很多品牌可以利用微电影的模式。我觉得真的是我们的另外的出路。但是说到怎么办，我真的还没……
雷军：你有投资微电影的计划么？
刘德华：我觉得这些需要你们去发展，慢慢可以寻找合作的机会。我很怕用手机，刚刚开始用手指的智能机的时候，我就怕小孩每天用手玩智能设备，会变成手指很长的ET那样。
主持人：刘德华有什么问雷军的？
刘德华：总是有人问我什么时候退休，你为什么退休后又回来了？
雷军：我做金山的时候非常苦，大家都说我是劳模。我就把金山上市当作目标，当我登上山顶后，很落寞很无聊，所以就退休了。我40岁生日的时候，想起来有个18岁的梦，所以就创办了小米。
主持人：刘德华什么时候退休？
刘德华：我公司上市的时候。
刘德华：雷军说你军大衣那个策划的很好啊。其实我的歌迷知道我，那件衣服陪了我很多年，我在沈阳穿了很少，所以他们在车上准备了一个军大衣给我。结果没想到一下车就是红毯，我只能走下去，然后慢慢脱……
现场互动
现场听众：现在很多明星做手机，你有没有想过跟雷军合作，做个华仔手机？
刘德华：我觉得我是那种很希望有我们中国人的产品走向世界。如果真的有这个机会，我会去研究。但是我自己不会主动做这种事情。
现场听众：我是清华学生，想去您那实习，您的实习标准？
刘德华：可以来我的公司。
现场听众：我也是清华学生，但我不是来找工作的。两位很早创业也成功了，但为什么不鼓励现在的大学生创业？
雷军：我不是不鼓励创业，而是不鼓励在校和刚毕业的大学生创业。美国很多世界级的公司，都是大学生创办的。但是中国一是大学对创业的教育不够，二是创业的过程比较困难。我看到很多大学生借钱创业，在很高的压力下，很容易走上邪路。其实大家如果经验不足，创业的失败率非常高，做老板很风光，但是很困难。
刘德华：大家不要急。我们培养过很多新导演，你当了导演之后，一辈子就回不来了。还有很多新导演，当了很多年的编剧、副导演、演员等。如果在没有能力的时候你非要干，你一辈子就毁了。没有一个行业不赚钱，只有你做成做不成，你在大学要学习怎么去学习。
现场听众：我是来自台湾的记者，我想问如果两位今天有机会互换身份，你们会想做什么？
刘德华：(突然问雷军)你结婚了么？你先来，我在想一想。
雷军：可能我最想做的事情，是能不能帮助一些刚加入电影圈的新生力量，成为下一代的明星。每个人的时间都是有限的，要让刘德华的精神代代相传。
刘德华：如果我有机会互换，我要去坐坐雷军的办公室，去公司了解下科技行业是怎么运作的，一个完整的工作流程是怎样的。我要好好学习，希望有天成为“雷锋”。
现场听众：今天两位都走上人生巅峰，从小到大，你们的人生理想是怎么变化的？
雷军：我18岁的时候，特别想像乔布斯一样做个世界级的科技公司。当我做出小米之后，发觉能做出让用户热爱的产品更重要。
刘德华：我是在农村出生，六岁离开。我小时候想当农夫，结果失败了。我18岁的时候，写了很多剧本，想去电视台当导演。结果进入训练班，老师跟我说：你还是去当演员吧。又失败了。后来我逐渐看清自己的能力，慢慢准备慢慢努力，这样就会距离成功不太远。我还没有定下来人生理想，现在整个家庭才换成另外一个状态。还在调整自己。
现场听众：假设我是像华仔一样的人，但是想法不是很好，雷总会投我么？你是投人还是投项目？你有投过女性主导的创业团队么？
雷军：天使投资者最重要的就是投人，而不是投项目。一个优秀的人，成功概率会高很多。对我来说，最幸福的事情，就是认识几个能闭着眼睛写支票的创业者。如果刘德华同意，我今天就能拍板投资他的公司，价钱随便开，我绝对不还价。女性创业者市场上比较小，我投过清华校友王秀娟的大街网。
现场听众：我今年看了刘德华的两部电影，富春比较雷，盲探比较……
刘德华：盲探比较“军”的是吧(全场笑)
现场听众：比较雷的和比较“军”的你都是什么心态？
刘德华：每个艺术家的作品，不一定都能做到极致。我觉得拍的过程中我是享受的，我知道中间出现了什么问题，但是有些事情我们改变不了，我希望大家能够接受。我还有个新片，希望你以后告诉我是比较雷的还是比较“军”的。
现场听众：两位走过几十年，怎么看待家庭生活的重要性？
刘德华：我是绝对选家庭的人。然后很多人关心，但如果你是我太太，你会觉得非常幸福。
雷军：刘先生说的非常好，我非常支持。
现场听众：男生的甜言蜜语能相信么？
刘德华：不要相信，真的管用。
现场听众：刚才雷总没讲到孙权型的老板，你是哪种老板？
雷军：我现在做小米，最重要是我喜欢，这是很幸福的事情。今天做小米都是我亲自做的，从类型上说，我更像曹操，深入一线，亲自去打仗。
现场听众：我今天是为了刘德华过来的，前一段有帖子说你是情商智商最高的明星之一。你的形象和情绪是怎么控制的？同时还想问雷军，我不是米粉，你能给我三个喜欢小米的理由么？
刘德华：我会发脾气的，回家的时候我会发脾气，因为那些人会原谅我，但是外面不会。而且发脾气能解决的问题不多。世界上有些人觉得，要真实的面对所有人，但是同时应该照顾别人的感觉。你真的可以在一个私人的空间跟人沟通。
雷军：小米创办只有三年半，还有很多不足。想一下打动你可能有困难。但是小米有一点跟其他公司不一样，我们愿意跟每一个消费者交朋友，我们和用户是朋友。
现场听众：我站起来无数次才得到最后一个提问的机会。现在山区很多小朋友穿的很单薄上课，你们可不可以考虑下一个目标做慈善和公益？
刘德华：刘德华慈善基金已经快30年了。我们一直都在做慈善。我们愿意参加你所提及的公益活动。
雷军：小米参与过非常多的公益慈善活动，你所提及的公益活动，我们也愿意参加。
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