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The author:(作者)aaapublished in(发表于) 2013/12/24 8:45:19 Nanyang， Henan real estate woes： exposed undocumented properties still under construction
On December 22, Nanyang city, Henan province, high-tech district four seasons flowers city phase II project of the construction site, dozens of meters high buildings stand side by side, as the area there are few "lofty". Without a roof construction at the back of the upper around the Green fence. Inside the fence, you can see that some workers in the top job, work came a tinkling sound of a beating from time to time.
As a rule, a real estate project, construction and foreign sales is required for State-owned land use permit, construction land use planning permit for construction project planning permit, construction permits and pre-sale permit this 5 card.
Just two months ago, the four seasons flower city phase II project without these documents, high-tech zone management committee has said that it has ordered to stop to make. Today, the project does not stop, was already in the above documents within two months, or in which illegal construction? China Youth daily reporter has once again to investigate itself.
Been exposed for sale without a license in the "long"
On October 21 of this year, China Youth daily reporter at the four seasons flower City sales center when making unannounced visits, sales staff told reporters, the rear does not CAP's buildings have been built to around 17.
On October 24, the newspaper had published the Nanyang, Henan: properties for sale why were built without a license, reported five card no started construction of the project and the pre-sale. Subsequently, Nanyang city, high-tech zone management committee, has ordered enterprises shut down for rectification, and requested a pre-sale housing development enterprises does not allow, at the same time, improve relevant procedures as soon as possible after approved.
Two months later, on December 22, the reporter back in four seasons flower city phase II construction site, property for rent in violation is found in "growing", building body parts under the fence, already has 17 floors.
Nanyang City Housing Authority official Web site, alert was issued on November 29, the latest issue of real estate market. The Nanyang in November 2013, the real estate market alert (11th), shows that four season flower City project of the Nanyang Hao Ding properties limited, is still "pre-sale permit or has been made and where to buy the item under investigation (deadline November 25, 2013)".
Nanyang City Housing Authority at the same time reminding buyers, "without advance sale of commercial housing projects and real estate license or is under investigation, current sales conditions are not available, don't buy it".
Reporters found, and construction has not stopped, and the sale of the property.
The morning of December 23, China Youth daily reporter with the identity of the purchaser of the House again and again to the four seasons flower City sales center unannounced visits.
Two or three rooms in the sandbox and watch the room. One of the sales staff told reporters, no cap will cover 27 floors of buildings, now it has covered up to 20 levels, conservatively estimated occupancy by the end of next year. At the same time, she told a press conference on November 30, after the opening, the House has sold out, no cap at the back of the 2nd floor outdoor except 9 and the rest is almost sold out.
Holders of the property, the sales staff said, "not yet", currently only State-owned land use permit, planning permit for construction project planning permit for construction purposes 3 cards, two documents are still handled.
Reporter, so the media before the five card no coverage at all of the property, some concern. The sales person said, "it's over now, still under construction. "She also said that prior to that he was President of Nanyang Academy of liberal arts school is located in the rear of the property in their detractors," later (school) a public apology, said was slander us. "The salesperson asks," didn't you read it? A public apology, and youth. ”
"What this is! "The apology, a liberal arts college school principal Wang Xueping said" impossible ". According to press reports, China Youth daily, October 24 running commentary on the matter to date, has not published any apology is reported.
Responsibility of the construction of the property who is kept without a license
"This is after all a city, is on the side, if not card cover so high? "Sales staff say that strength is strong," no one dare game ".
Nanyang, China Youth daily reporter then went to the high-tech zone management committee, about four seasons flowers city phase II project application situation. High-tech zone Working Committee propaganda department director Liu Wei told journalists at the meeting, set up by the real estate developers to explained the relevant situation.
Nanyang Hao Ding home ownership, General Manager of Kuranami told the China Youth daily, at present, the projects are in the process of State-owned land usage certificate. Land sector after the end of the tone of publicity, will receive State-owned land usage certificate.
Kuranami said that the four seasons flowers city phase II project now under construction. He said that in principle, was supposed to line up after 4 cards to be constructed, but the actual process, affordable housing barriers in rush, four seasons flowers city land for phase II projects are developed, there are still some houses, the impact of the progress of the rush.
"Have tried to push forward, we don't want to breach, violation for us is cost. "Hide said, this is too much for him to do," default theory, this place I'm going to have to double his money, Government fines, I still pay an extension of migrant workers ' wages. ”
Hao Ting Zhu Mingguo, Chairman of Sino Land company limited in Nanyang city also said that because of work stoppages have been placing households and migrant workers come up many times.
But the town and country planning Act, such as the building Act stipulates that the case documents do not align, not to start construction and sale.
Liu said, had already issued a suspension notice to the project. But for being ordered to cease work commenced again knowledge, Wei has not been a positive response, saying only that "If suppression". Properties for sale why do construction without a license suspension is invalid, Liu said, with the relevant law enforcement authorities responded.
China University of political science and law professor Lang Peijuan, construction without a license to continue construction, relevant government departments will bear the responsibility for dereliction. Under the town and country planning Act and related laws and regulations in the construction sector, developers are also subject to certain penalties. She also said that if government departments should stop building still in progress at a blind eye to the phenomena, belonging to fails to perform the statutory duties.
For competent leadership and staff should take the disciplinary actions taken, Lang Peijuan said, "depends on the plot, the second depends on the social consequences of its serious. The light is a warning, demerits, demerit, etc. If because of an incident that has impact on the image of the Government or credibility, might want to take on more administrative responsibilities. ”
Cannot advance without a license requirement exist
Journalists also visited the many properties for sale in Nanyang, discovered documents do not justify the construction of the property, the sales situation is not uncommon.
Lady (not his real name) 's son just graduated this year, and this time, she has been around the House for his son. "Nandu · qiushi Garden" was her 4th real estate today.
"It feels good to type here, traffic is very convenient. "Lady phase for a set of more than 100 square meters of houses. But for the sale of the property should be held 5 documents, used just a little more than, "don't ask, it should be okay, so big here. ”
"South · sickle Garden" in the sales Hall, display of the State-owned land use permit, construction land use planning permit for construction project planning permit 3 cards. Sales staff said that the remaining two cards are still in progress, but as long as there is land and planning permits, other documents are good.
"Plum Creek new world" real estate sales staff say, "advance card sure no", only State-owned land use permit and other documents are still in progress. But more than 300 years, that there's only a dozen sets haven't sold out.
"Zhongzhou · Jincheng Washington" real estate sales staff told reporters that the 3 sets left in high-rise housing stock, but the present procedure is not only letters and related documents are still in progress. "In itself, letter of identification. "Sales, said, this is the urban village reconstruction project, are more in favour of the Government, documents will not be down.
"Louvre Mansion" properties are known preparatory phase, documents are still in progress. "Our boss power is strong. "The real estate sales staff said card is no problem and you're sure to get down.
In addition, the China Youth daily survey found that international, Wanda Morgan · Central Park, with many properties for sale such as Sheng international, Hanlin of Washington there is also documentation is incomplete, but has been in a sales situation.
2010 enacted of housing and in urban and rural areas construction on further strengthened real estate market regulatory perfect merchandise housing presale system about problem of notification under clear provides, is not made presale license of merchandise housing project, real estate development enterprise shall not for presale, shall not to subscription, and book, and Bay number, and issued VIP card, way to buy by people charged or disguised charged deposit, and scheduled paragraph, nature of costs, shall not participate in any showroom activities.
Previously, Nanyang Li Xuejun, Director of the Office of the Housing Authority also made it clear to reporters that, in the absence of a pre-sale permit cases, developers may not be for sale.
But the real estate sales people are said, documents do not align, does not affect the money to buy a House. Looking at houses, to pay a deposit ranging from 10,000 ~2 million and paid in full down payment or full payment within 7 days, will be able to sign a sales agreement, such as after the pre-sale permit processing and sign the contract.
In this regard, the Nanyang municipal party Committee propaganda department news section Yuan Yande said, according to the rules, in advance before you get all documents are done together. Nanyang, but for a number of documents all of the property that is started, the pre-sale situation, Yuan Yande said, also need to link land, planning, housing and other departments to implement this, then will reply to reporters.
Staff writer, Nanyang, December 23-
(Original title: Nanyang, Henan real estate development chaos research)
12月22日，河南省南阳市高新区四季花城二期项目的施工现场，数十米高的楼房并排矗立，成为这个片区内少有的“高个儿”。后排还未封顶的建筑上部，围着绿色的防护网。防护网内，隐约可以看到，几个工人在楼顶作业，工地里也不时传来叮叮当当的敲打声。
按照规定，一个房地产项目开工建设和对外销售，需要取得国有土地使用证、建设用地规划许可证、建设工程规划许可证、建筑工程施工许可证和商品房预售许可证这5证。
就在两个月前，四季花城二期项目还未取得上述证件，高新区管委会也曾表示已经责令其停工整改。如今，工程并未停工，是已经在两个月内获得了上述证件，还是在顶风违法施工？中国青年报记者日前再次来到南阳展开调查。
被曝光的无证楼盘还在“长个儿”
今年10月21日，中国青年报记者在四季花城销售中心进行暗访时，销售人员曾告诉记者，后排未封顶的楼房已盖到17层左右。
10月24日，本报曾刊发《河南南阳：无证楼盘为何拔地而起》一文，报道该项目五证全无即开工建设并预售。随后，南阳市高新区管委会表示，已责令开发企业停工整改，并要求开发企业不允许进行房屋预售，同时，督促其尽快完善相关手续。
时隔两个月，12月22日，记者再次来到四季花城二期项目施工现场，发现违规楼盘还在“生长”，防护网之下的楼体部分，就已经有17层。
南阳市房产管理局官方网站上，于11月29日发布了最新一期房地产市场警报。这份《2013年11月份南阳房地产市场警报(第十一号)》显示，南阳昊鼎置业有限公司的四季花城项目，仍属于“未取得商品房预售许可证或正在被立案调查的项目和楼盘(截止日期2013年11月25日)”。
南阳市房产管理局同时提醒购房者，“凡未取得商品房预售许可证或正在被立案调查的项目和楼盘，说明目前不具备销售条件，请不要购买”。
记者调查发现，与施工一样并未停止的，还有该楼盘的销售活动。
12月23日上午，中国青年报记者再次以买房者的身份到四季花城销售中心暗访。
两三位看房者在沙盘旁看房。一位售楼人员告诉记者，未封顶的楼房将盖27层，目前已经盖到20层，保守估计明年年底就可以交房。同时，她告诉记者，11月30日开盘过后，房子已经基本卖完，后排未封顶的2号楼除9楼的一户外，其余已基本售空。
关于楼盘的持证情况，该销售人员称，“现在还不全”，目前仅持有国有土地使用证、建设用地规划许可证、建设工程规划许可证3证，其余两项证件仍在办理之中。
记者提出，因此前有媒体曝光该楼盘五证全无的报道，有些担忧。该销售人员说：“现在没事了，照样在施工。”她还表示，此前是位于楼盘后方的南阳市博雅书院学校校长在诋毁他们，“后来(学校)都公开道歉了，说是对我们的污蔑。”销售人员反问道，“你没看吗？公开道歉了，青年报发的。”
“哪有这事啊！”针对道歉一事，博雅书院学校校长王学平连连表示“不可能”。而据记者了解，中国青年报10月24日、11月9日就此事连续报道至今，并未刊登过任何致歉报道。
无证楼盘施工叫不停是谁的责任
“这毕竟是一个市，还是在路边上，真要是没证敢盖这么高？”售楼人员表示，实力再强，也“没人敢这么光明正大”。
中国青年报记者随后来到南阳市高新区管委会，了解四季花城二期项目目前的办证情况。高新区工委宣传部主任刘伟告知记者自己在开会，由该楼盘开发商向记者解释相关情况。
南阳市昊鼎置业有限公司总经理藏波告诉中国青年报记者，目前，该项目正在办理国有土地使用证。待国土部门挂牌公示期结束后，将拿到国有土地使用证。
藏波说，四季花城二期项目现在确实还在施工。他表示，从原则上讲，是应该办齐4个证之后才能施工，但实际过程中，保障房在办证方面存在障碍，四季花城二期项目虽属开发用地，仍存在部分安置房，影响了办证的进度。
“已经尽力在往前推了，我们也不想违规，违规对我们来讲也是有成本的。”藏波说，这种情况让他很难办，“时间拖欠了，老百姓这块儿我要翻倍给他钱，政府还要罚款，我自己还要承担延期的农民工工资。”
南阳市昊鼎置业有限公司董事长朱明国也表示，此前因为停工，已有安置户及农民工上门闹过多次。
但《城乡规划法》、《建筑法》等规定，证件不齐的情况下，不得开工建设并预售。
刘伟说，此前已经对该项目下发过停工通知书。但对于被责令停工项目再次动工一事是否知情，刘伟并未作正面回应，只是表示“如果发现了就制止”。对于无证楼盘施工为何叫停无效，刘伟表示，将与相关执法部门了解过后作出答复。
中国政法大学教授郎佩娟表示，无证建筑继续开工建设，政府相关职能部门将承担失职的责任。根据《城乡规划法》及建设部门的相关法律规定，开发商也要受到一定处罚。她还表示，如果政府部门对本应停工建筑仍在赶工的现象视而不见，属于不履行法定职责。
对于主管领导和工作人员应当承担何种处分，郎佩娟说：“一要看情节，二要看其造成的社会后果是否严重。最轻的是警告，然后记过、记大过等。如果因为此事让政府的形象或公信力受到影响，可能就要承担比较重的行政责任。”
无证不能预售的规定形同虚设
记者又走访了南阳多处楼盘，发现楼盘证件不齐就施工、销售的情况并不鲜见。
余大妈(化名)的儿子今年刚刚毕业，这段时间，她一直四处给儿子看房。“南都·秋实苑”是她今天转的第4家楼盘。
“感觉这儿户型还不错，周边交通啥的也挺方便。”余大妈相中了一套100多平方米的房子。但对于楼盘预售应当持有的5个证件，余大妈只是略知一二，“没怎么问过，应该没事吧，这么大的盘在这儿。”
在“南都·秋实苑”的售楼大厅内，展示有国有土地使用证、建设用地规划许可证、建设工程规划许可证3证。售楼人员表示，其余两证还在办理中，但只要有土地证和规划证就行，其他证件都好办。
“梅溪新天地”楼盘售楼人员表示，“预售证肯定没有”，目前只有国有土地使用证，其余证件仍在办理中。但300多套房屋，目前仅剩十几套还没卖完。
“中州·锦城华府”楼盘售楼人员也告诉记者，3幢高层中仅剩几套房源，但目前手续还不全，只有批函，相关证件还在办理中。“在南阳，有批函就相当于有证件了。”销售人员表示，这是城中村改造项目，政府都比较支持，证件不会办不下来。
“卢浮公馆”楼盘正在认筹阶段，证件尚在办理中。“我们老板实力是比较强的。”该楼盘销售人员说，证都没有问题，肯定能办下来。
此外，中国青年报记者调查发现，万达国际、摩根·中央公园、同晟国际、翰林华府等多处楼盘亦存在证件不齐但已经在销售的情况。
2010年颁布的《住房和城乡建设部关于进一步加强房地产市场监管完善商品住房预售制度有关问题的通知》明确规定，未取得预售许可的商品住房项目，房地产开发企业不得进行预售，不得以认购、预订、排号、发放VIP卡等方式向买受人收取或变相收取定金、预定款等性质的费用，不得参加任何展销活动。
此前，南阳市房产管理局办公室主任李学军也明确向记者表示，在没有取得预售许可证的情况下，开发商不得进行预售。
但上述楼盘的销售人员均表示，证件不齐，不影响交钱买房。看中房屋后，先交1万～2万元不等的订金，然后在7天内交齐首付或全款，便可签订购房协议，等商品房预售许可证办理以后，再签订正式合同。
对此，南阳市市委宣传部新闻科科长袁延德表示，按照规定，在预售之前应该把所有的证件都办齐。但对于南阳市多处楼盘存在证件不齐即开工、预售的情况，袁延德表示，还需要联系国土、规划、住建等多个部门落实此事，之后会给记者答复。
本报南阳12月23日电
(原标题：河南南阳房地产开发乱象调查)
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