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Should the seat to the elderly? A scene on the train, was bombed by users all over the country......,

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Should the seat to the elderly? A scene on the train, was bombed by users all over the country ... ...-bullet trains, ticket-IT information

Yesterday, the octogenarian Florida Lee D5185 train, going to Chengdu's huaxi hospital, after people only buy Florida yingshan seat.

Nanchong station, was purchased to female college students in Chengdu in Nanchong "please", the old man's daughter wants to squeeze squeeze, was rejected by the women, then a middle-aged man to man. Old man told her: "young man, you should learn more. "The result was women fight back," their position is wrong?! ”

This broadcast on Twitter @ Florida issued after it has been reproduced in various media, and cause users a lot of discussion.

Smile Wang Xiaohan: can only say that everyone has that old!

Sleep better than a spring game: your comment interesting tiny, not a seat is not respecting.

SWAGGY_JY: why stress is a beautiful young college student?

Wang Liangxun: seat of righteousness, not reasons. To you be grateful, not so can't complain.

Super-Celia: serious moral kidnapping, I have seen before, give me the position occupied, I say sit crammed together, the old lady crying, said gas, let you out of courtesy, so, as far as is reasonable.

LU LU LU l: who exactly encountered anything as long as the way to fix it, a reluctance to ask another, I believe there will always be someone who will. Don't hold other things must give it to you, no one needs an obligation to cooperate with others.

Do yourself, blame much less grateful.

You sister: first seat commendable, no seat is understandable, the second daughter for the elderly not qualified to say such things, their problems but also moral kidnapping others shun his mom, third as passengers encountered such difficulties should find the conductor coordination instead of forcing his seat.

VEd Long Jinglan: say you are rich. And regardless, make room for the elderly this is as it should be!!! And it was a sick old man!!! When my grandpa was ill, I took him to the hospital, when you take a taxi, stand still when you get off, you don't understand the old man how sick is sick!!! What moral kidnapping, I see you are immoral!

The Rainbow under the Crab Apple tree: this pot of College point, young men are back. Seat right in the individual, young people also get tired of the moral kidnapping what kind of thing ... Old daughter then why not take a little stool it? Do children have a problem in itself.

Yan Yanyan is empty: look at comment sad, seat is a virtue and not a legal requirement. But look at the pictures the old man really is very old, her daughter was standing beside the description there is no seating. But after that one, "young people should learn more" actually pretty disgusting.

Although most of the comments in the slot "morality kidnapping", but some netizens raised some questions, to this end, the sister contacted the staff of Chengdu Railway Administration ... ...

"Can buy tickets for the yingshan, sure can buy Chengdu"

Train ticket in accordance with "→ no" order, there is a case, which seats sold first, before selling free tickets. 51 holidays return peak, did not rule out there is really no seat ticket from Florida to Chengdu.

"Why after the train not to fill a seat for the elderly? ”

Car seat and sleeper are different, if there are passengers to buy a sleeper ticket, but not on the bus, departure after a period of time, staff members have the right to dispose of spare berths. But ticket there is no such case, purchased tickets can get passengers find seat without seat or you can sit down, but purchased the seats back seat passengers also have the right to a seat.

"Why don't staff coordination? ”

Each passenger are equally important to us, we have to safeguard the interests of each passenger, staff members can only "coordination", the right to "requirements" have a seat to passengers in seats, a subjective choice for passengers.

You can see from pictures, women and the elderly mother and daughter are in the second-class carriage, seating was not broad, hard to squeeze two people, grudgingly ... ...

According to 12306 Web site shows D5185 train operating hours are as follows, from Florida to Nanchong, about 1 hour and 40 minutes from Chengdu, Nanchong has almost 1.5 hours. If the seat to the old man, just get on she takes 1.5 hours ... ...

Train, train and bus, subway is different, bus and Metro mobility, a few minutes up and down, your seat wasn't a big deal, but high-speed rail, trains are relatively stable, we were 1 hour, a few hours off, don't want to seat and there is no need to place blame. Should have accused those sick pregnant seats do not let people, not people who bought ticket stubs.

Finally sharing some user experiences, let or not to let, what do you think about it?

When I was 20 years old by train, a nearly 60-year old woman, with a more than 30-year old woman, the woman makes more than 30 year old woman yelled at me "rang rang", asking me to give them a seat and watched so many years older than me, "Junior", I was determined to offer them a seat ... ... (Smoke @ the Queen v)

Once hard from her student days to Dalian, Nanjing, saw an old man standing by my bed at night so sleepy that staggered, I gave her his bed, he sat near the window all night, next day know that I sleep under the bed is old man's grandchildren, with my age ... ... I never let up. (@ Xia Zhi)

On a crowded train trip, discover old man sitting on a seat, I say seats are the she did not stand up, people around to different look, very hesitant, but the thought of several hours, eventually going back to the location, then the old man standing next to me holding my position, I was ashamed and dismount. After a long time, couples across the aisle, called old man sat down and started eating. I found that they are a family. (@ Monday when the tendons)

Think of an experience many years ago by train: a gentleman from Anqing to Hefei with old man to go to the doctor, due to fear of the elderly sick and time constraints, only got tickets. When very politely ask the people around you, that give you 100 dollars can you give my mother made in the single digits? A lot of people ready to make trouble and sorry, finally went to the sleeping car conductor with their. Want to say is: not necessarily moral kidnapping methods should be used. (@Sam-37)

There is a holiday out to catch return peak only got tickets, also many people car station. Sitting on the edge of our aunts, went to the toilet, let sit, watching them come back after using the toilet ready to back their position, they are very kind to let us sit, says sitting too long wanted to station a railway station, was really moving, give us the seat's MOM, who's aunt.


该不该给老人让座?动车上的一幕,让全国网友都炸了…… - 动车,站票 - IT资讯

昨天,达州的八旬老人李某乘坐D5185次动车,准备到成都的华西医院看病,因节后人多只买到达州到营山座位。

到南充站后,被购买了南充到成都坐票的女大学生“请”起来,老人的女儿希望能挤一挤,被女子拒绝,之后是一中年男子给老人让了座。老人女儿说了一句:“年轻人啊,应该多学学。”结果遭到女子反击,“坐自己位置错了吗?!”

此事由@达州快播报在微博上发出,经各个媒体转载后,引发网友大量讨论。

smile王晓涵:只能说每个人都有老去的那天!

好春光不如睡一场:你这微评有意思,不让座就是不尊老爱幼了。

SWAGGY_JY:为什么强调是年轻貌美女大学生?

王良洵:让座的仁义,不让是道理。给你让要感恩,不给让不能抱怨。

Super-Celia:严重的道德绑架,我之前也遇到过,给我位置霸占着,我说挤着大家一起坐,老太太还哭呢,说起来就气,让你出于礼节,不让,那么远也合理。

鹿路路L:谁都没错,遇到任何事只要想办法去解决就好,一个不愿意让就去问另一个,我相信总会有人会让。别抓着别人有的东西就必须让给你,没有任何人需要义务去配合别人。

做好自己,少责怪多感谢。

坚强你妹:第一让座的人值得赞扬,不让座也无可厚非,第二老人女儿没有资格说这种话,自己的问题还要道德绑架别人孝顺自己妈,第三作为乘客遇到这种困难应该找列车长协调而不是强迫别人让座。

vEd龙静岚:先说你们都是有钱人。然后其他的先不考虑,让个座给老人这是应该的!!!而且还是个生病的老人!!!我爷爷生病的时候,我带他去医院,坐出租车时一直吐,下车时都站不稳,你们不懂老人生病了是有多难受!!!说什么道德绑架,我看你们就是道德败坏!

海棠树下的rainbow:这锅大学生不背,年轻人更不背。让座权在个人啊,年轻人也会累的啊,道德绑架算哪门子事啊…老人女儿为何不带个小凳子呢?做儿女的本身就有问题。

晏晏宴是空:看评论挺难过的,让座的确是美德而并不是法律规定。但是看图片老人真的已经很老了,她女儿是站在旁边说明也是没有座位的。不过事后的那一句"年轻人应该多学学"的确挺让人恶心的。

虽然目前大多数评论都在吐槽“道德绑架”,但也有部分网友提出几点质疑,为此,商妹儿联系了成都铁路局工作人员……

“能买到营山的票,肯定能买到成都的”

动车售票按照“有座→无座”的顺序,有座的情况下,先售卖有座票,之后才售卖无座票。五一假日返程高峰,不排除确实没有从达州到成都的座票。

“为什么上车后不给老人补个座票?”

动车座票和卧铺票不同,如果有旅客购买了卧铺票,但没有上车,发车一段时间后,工作人员有权处置空余出来的卧铺。但动车票不存在这样的情况,购买了车票均可上车,无座票的旅客找到空座也可以坐下,但购买了该座位座票的旅客也有权要回座位。

“工作人员为什么不协调?”

每个旅客对我们而言都是同样重要的,我们要维护每位旅客的权益,但工作人员也只能“协调”,无权“要求”有座位的旅客让座,这是旅客的主观选择。

从拍摄图片可以看出,女子和老人母女都是在二等座车厢,座位并不宽敞,硬要挤两个人,也比较勉强……

根据12306网站显示,D5185次车运行时间如下,从达州到南充,约1小时40分钟,从南充到成都也有近1个半小时。若是让座给老人,刚上车的她需要站1个半小时……

火车、动车和公交、地铁不同,公交、地铁流通性大,几分钟上上下下,让个座并没有什么大不了,但高铁、动车相对比较稳定,大家都是1小时、几小时才下车,不想让座也没有指责的必要。应该指责的是那些占着老弱病残孕专座不让的人,不是买了票对号入座的人。

最后分享一些网友的经历,让还是不让,你怎么看?

我20岁时坐火车,一个近60岁的女人,带着一个30多岁的女人,那个太婆让30多岁的女人喊我“孃孃”,请求我给她们让个座位,看着比我大那么多岁的“晚辈”,我果断给她们让座了……(@女王如烟V)

学生时代曾经硬卧从南京去大连,晚上发现一个老人站在我床边困得摇摇晃晃,我就把床铺让给了她,自己窗边坐了一夜,第二天才知道,我床铺下面睡着的是老人的孙子,跟我差不多大……我永远不会让了。(@夏志呆)

上了趟很挤的火车,发现位子上坐了位老人,我说位子是我的她也并没有站起来,周围人投来异样的目光,挺犹豫,但想到车程还要好几个小时,最终要回了位置,后来老人站在我旁边一直扶着我的位置,我挺惭愧又骑虎难下。过了好久,过道对面夫妻,把老人叫过去一起坐并一起开始吃东西。我才发现他们是一家人。(@星期一名当筋多)

想起很多年前坐火车的一段经历:一位先生带着年迈的老人从安庆到合肥去看病,由于害怕老人晕车且时间仓促,只买到了站票。上车后先生很有礼貌的问身边的人,说给你100块钱能给我的老母亲让个位吗?很多人蠢蠢欲动又不好意思,最后列车长带着他们去了卧铺车厢。想说的是:不一定要用道德绑架的方式。(@Sam-37)

有一次放假出去玩,赶上返程高峰只买到了站票,车上站的人也多。坐在我们边上的阿姨们去上厕所了,就让我们坐着,看她们上完厕所回来准备把位置还给她们,她们都很客气的让我们坐着,说坐太久了想站一站,当时真的很感动,给我们让座的都是妈妈年纪的阿姨。






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