App deals worth up to 8 digits? Probably are not micro-letter domain name-IT information

Recently, the weixin.com domain name has a, called "very soon" of app developers Alliance in their address for notice published in weixin.com Forum website, that will weixin.com the domain name transferred to Tencent . Tencent did not openly--obtain a domain name cost arbitration and legal channels, Tencent, and even have the possibility to obtain the free domain name, rumours, weixin.com domain name holders, bought the domain name cost more than 30 million Yuan.

Complex and unexpected domain name disputes

December 2015, Tencent holding will a paper complaints book voted to has Asia domain name dispute solution Center Hong Kong Secretary at, advocates was v people "Li Ming" (following referred to "Lee Mr") hands of "weixin.com" domain name and Lee Mr I name and the hands since produced has nothing to do, is for knows Tencent company micro-letter trademark Hou of malicious registered, and will domain name for micro-letter related of field.

While the respondent Lee advocates can't prove "weixin" associated with micro-and, more importantly, the domain name was registered in 2000, long before the app release date, and Lee are the process of buying and selling domain names starting with due process, and there are no domain names listed for sale or expression of intention to sell such malicious behavior of cybersquatting. In addition, the site also prominently on this site non-official website, does not constitute without competition.

Domain name arbitration results are surprising: establishing infringement, domain name found should be transferred to the company .

Registration of domain names in a 2000 year, micro-letter was born a decade later, this infringement is going? Time, about micro trademark fry pan. Also there is a good turn out of the app earlier precedent in trademark infringement:

In March 2015, Beijing intellectual property Court on "micro" trademark in administrative proceedings, the Court of first instance dismissed the plaintiff Chong Bo Asia Pacific technology (Shandong) Limited claims, upheld the Administration for industry and Commerce trademark review and adjudication Board to create a company of 38 submitted category "micro-letter" word mark no registration review ruling. Although the plaintiff company official has submitted 2 months earlier than a micro-38th "micro-letter" word mark applied for, but the trademark applications during the period under review the objection procedures found not registered by the judges, and was again upheld in the proceedings no registration.

And weixin.com is in the area of domain names, said Tencent shop big or guest? Asian domain name dispute resolution Centre naturally have their say:

The transfer of the domain name registrant should be considered as a new registration. Therefore, the respondent obtained ownership of the disputed domain name date is later than the complainant made "weixin"/"little letter" of the Hong Kong trade marks registry date (October 25, 2011).

Allegedly inferred from the domain name litigation in precedent, but the findings also challenge the public perception. But the final conclusion, are three arbiter, with two votes, one vote against conclusion, judge weixin.com transferred to the app. For arbitration, Lee refuses to accept the natural and in February this year to prosecute to the Haidian District people's Court, after three months, the two sides reached an out-of-court settlement, with today's bulletin. Domain name transfer is as empty as the arbitration gloves White Wolf, within or at reasonable cost, Tencent and no information is given.

Why?

Know the problem "how to evaluate a domain name after weixin.com hands down, Tencent successfully apply for arbitration? "Netizens were also standing on both ends of the scale. More rational user editor believes that there is adequacy of arbitration precedents:

I suspect Li Ming won't let go, rumors had to appeal, but the Outlook is optimistic. Http://alibababank.com domain name is also the Asian domain name dispute resolution the center that year awarded by the Hong Kong Secretariat of the Ali, then holders in domestic court results domain names still falls on Ali's hand. Domain name CAI Wen-sheng Wang's International had Durex lawsuit, http://Durex.CN this domain, is also ominous.

But http://weixin.com the ruling brought cheers, as in some subconscious domain name investors, and "something for nothing", "speculation" draw an equals sign. Apples a year and only on the "iPad" trademark case, finally, Apple paid a $ 60 million settlement. Due to the influence of the new iPad market, brink of bankruptcy the only Crown that year no less fruit powder greeting family members. Tesla's trademark case reconciliation, Tesla free "Tesla" Chinese trademarks when the applause is online.

Supporters argue that weixin.com is now back to blame. If the domain name used as a personal blog or even a blank page, and Tencent only good pay, but as the app-related commercial sites, the natural odds are, in the arbitral award of the Asian domain name dispute resolution the Center, also said:

In fact, the disputed site content significantly around the complainant "micro" products, confuse your visitors access this Web site for commercial interests, are the policies of the 4th (b) (iii) and (iv) of the "bad faith".

Although infringement too hard, but the arbitration process is not a pleasant one. On one hand, only because the original weixin.com site has a large number of links to official micro-letter domain name "weixin.QQ.com" that are judged to confuse visitors into thinking that this is the official website, although now has made an unofficial Web site identifies and provides links to official website of jump on the other, cannot prove that the domain name is said in June 2015, before transferred to Mr Li had no violations . In his ruling, large amounts of irrelevant content to be used to "support" the appellee torts, even to ICANN pay hidden information is also used to protect domain owners into arbitration "inferences of guilt."

Those sky-high domain name, why a good buy?

As early as 2014, Lei eventually MI.com millet in the Pocket, sold for $ 3.6 million – achieved weixin.com cost slightly less than today's Mr Li. Short domain name prices due to competition in the face of international price might have been at a high level, the 360buy Jingdong Mall from conversion of simple spelling JD.com, cost as much as $ 3 million . Of course, compared to some of the hottest English word domain names, these also are cheaper.

Of course, more expensive than the word? China happens to have the company buy-in February 2015, 360-360.com from Vodafone hand, is rumored to cost up to us $ 17 million, more than 100 million Yuan.

Letter and above Ali they can't use domain names obtained through arbitration, is to a large extent our Lee die head, weixin.com in micro-business, really. From registration to multiple transfers, procedures are just, but the outcome of the arbitration, can also be justified.

微信成交价值高达8位数？可能一分都没有 - 微信,域名 - IT资讯

近日，原weixin.com域名的拥有着，一个名为“很快”的微信开发者联盟在他们地址为weixin.com的论坛网站中刊发公告，称终将weixin.com域名转交给腾讯。腾讯获得域名的代价并没有公开——通过仲裁与法律渠道，腾讯甚至有免费取得域名的可能性，而坊间传言，weixin.com域名现持有人，购得此域名的费用超过3000万元人民币。

复杂而意外的域名纠纷

2015年12月，腾讯控股将一纸投诉书投到了亚洲域名争议解决中心香港秘书处，主张被诉人“li ming”（以下简称“李先生”）手中的“weixin.com”域名与李先生本人姓名及手中自产无关，是为知晓腾讯公司微信商标后的恶意注册，并将域名用于微信相关的领域。

而被诉人李先生则主张不能证明“weixin”与微信有关，更重要地，该域名注册于2000年，远早于微信的发布时间，并且李先生的域名交易入手过程均为正当程序，且不存在将域名挂牌出售或表达出售意向等恶意抢注的行为表现。此外，网站上也在醒目位置表明此网站非微信官网，并不构成不恶意竞争。

而域名仲裁结果却令人大跌眼镜：侵权成立、域名被判应转移给腾讯公司。

一个2000年就注册了的域名，晚出生快十年的微信，这侵权是怎么回事？一时间，关于微信商标的话题便炸了锅。也有好事者翻出了微信早先商标侵权诉讼的先例：

2015年3月，北京知识产权法院审结的一起关于“微信”商标的行政诉讼中，法院一审驳回了原告创博亚太科技（山东）有限公司的诉讼请求，判决维持了工商总局商标评审委员会对创博公司提交的38类“微信”文字商标不予核准注册的复审裁定。虽然原告创博公司比微信官方早2个月提交了第38类“微信”文字商标申请，但是，该商标申请在审查期间经异议程序被商评委裁定不予注册，而在诉讼中再被判决维持不予核准注册。

而weixin.com则是在域名方面的又一例，说腾讯店大欺客？亚洲域名争议解决中心自然有他们的说法：

域名注册人的转移应该视为一次新的注册。因此，被投诉人取得争议域名拥有权的日期晚于投诉人取得“weixin”/“微信”之香港商标注册日期(即2011年10月25日)。

据称这样的推断来自域名诉讼中的判决先例，但这样的结论确实也挑战了大众认知。但最终的结论，是三位仲裁官，以两票同意一票反对的结论，判定weixin.com转移至微信。对于仲裁结果，李先生自然不服，并于今年2月起诉至海淀区人民法院，三个月后，双方达成庭外和解，便有了今天的网站公告。域名转让，是真如仲裁结果一般空手套白狼，还是在合理的费用范围内，腾讯并没有给出相关信息。

为什么？

在知乎问题“如何评价域名weixin.com倒手后，腾讯申请仲裁成功？”中，网友也分别站在了天平两端。比较理性的网友老编辑认为，这里有充足的仲裁先例：

我估计李明不会善罢甘休，传闻已经要上诉了，但是前景不乐观。当年http://alibababank.com域名也是这个亚洲域名争议解决中心香港秘书处判给了阿里，然后持有者在国内法院上诉，结果域名还是落在了阿里手上。域名之王蔡文胜的易名国际还在跟杜蕾斯打官司，为http://durex.cn这个域名，也是凶多吉少。

但是http://weixin.com这个裁决竟然还引发不少叫好声，因为域名投资者在有些人的潜意识里，和“不劳而获”，“投机倒把”画上了等号。苹果公司当年和唯冠关于“iPad”的商标案，最后苹果付出了6000万美元和解。由于影响了the new iPad的上市，频临破产的唯冠在那一年没少被果粉问候家人。特斯拉商标案和解，Tesla免费获得“特斯拉”中文商标的时候，网上也是一片叫好声。

而支持者，则认为现在的weixin.com被收回是咎由自取。如果将这个域名作为个人博客使用甚至只是个空白页面，腾讯也只能乖乖掏钱，但将其作为微信相关的商业网站处理，自然是凶多吉少，在亚洲域名争议解决中心的仲裁书中，也是这样说的：

事实上，争议网站内容明显围绕投诉人“微信”产品，混淆浏览者访问该网站以获得商业利益，均属《政策》第4(b)(iii)及(iv)段的“恶意”使用。

尽管侵权言之确凿，但仲裁的过程却称不上舒心。一方面，仅由于原weixin.com网站中有大量链接至微信官方域名“weixin.qq.com”即被判定为用于混淆访客使其认为这是微信官网，尽管现拥有者做了非官方网站标识并提供了官方网站的跳转链接；另一方面，则称这个域名无法证明在2015年6月转手至李先生前有无侵权行为。在判决中，大量无关内容被用来”佐证“被诉人侵权，甚至将原本ICANN用于保护域名所有者的付费隐藏信息也成了仲裁中的“有罪推断”。

那些天价的域名，为什么还是乖乖掏钱买了？

早在2014年，雷军的小米终于将mi.com收入囊中，成交价360万美元——略少于今天的李先生取得weixin.com的成本。短域名的价格由于面对国际上的竞争可能价格都会在高位，京东商城由原先的360buy改换成简拼JD.com，成本也高达300万美元。当然，比起某些热门的英文单词域名来说，这些还都算便宜的。

当然还有比单词更贵的？国内恰好就有公司买过——2015年2月，360从沃达丰手上收购360.com，据传开销达1700万美元，超1亿元人民币。

之所以他们没法动用微信和上面提到阿里通过仲裁取得域名，很大程度上还是我们的李先生作死过头，将weixin.com真用在微信相关的行业中了吧。尽管从注册到多次转移，程序上都是正义的，但仲裁的结果，同样也可以是正当的。