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NetEase Indiana was accused of “harmful destruction“, then where is the problem? ,

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NetEase Indiana was accused of "harmful destruction", then where is the problem? -One Indiana, NetEase-IT information

Last night said there, someone pull up in front of NetEase building banners, said NetEase Indiana harm to their destruction. A 5000 cell phone, you may only spend 1 win mobile phone may also bet 4999 Yuan after all to be, this is Indiana.

So, claims to make "the destruction" of what is a meta-Indiana, how in this Internet game players are shattered?

One Indiana isn't just NetEase

Current Indiana platform volume, Indiana a NetEase platform operations is not just large companies do. In the App Store with "one Indiana" as a keyword, searching, full screen, similar name, played similar online platform. Jing dong has a grab treasure, the group have launched similar services.

(Audience raised site 1)

Many raised sites, 1 chip can participate in a sweepstakes, game platform for nature and level similar to Indiana.

1 for how to get the value of 5000 cell phone?

Average value of commodity distribution, each corresponding to a separate number, players can purchase one or multiple numbers according to their will, then through a public algorithm to determine the winning numbers, buy winning lottery numbers player received merchandise.

This play one Indiana official website NetEase, defined as "chips", to be sure, spend all of the money to buy the same items, the ownership of goods, selected through a way that seems fair.

But normal cognition has a clear return on the investment of "chips" mode, NetEase one Indiana into did not necessarily receive the product.

Probability of buying, look at it, is more like gambling, rather than raised.

One who is Indiana earn money? What makes people killed?

Define a game is gambling, about three factors of judgment: return on investment, and the results produced by the chance to define.

Players are drawn into this game probably is the same for all of the reasons: I might have a lower value of commodity money received for goods. And low barrier to entry of the game, a dollar can get thousands of cell phones, home appliances and even some platforms are worth hundreds of thousands of cars.

Looks very like mode and the lottery? Terrible so gamblers appears.

"Lottery ticket" "liabilities" for the keywords, can search too many sad stories, so probably one Indiana, after all, such a game of chance, there are winners and there are losers. But different from the lottery, Indiana of a terrible place, lies in the player and platform information, players need to be fully convinced that the impartiality of the platform.

A Yuan claimed treasure platform of profit way compared understand, lift a simple of example on can understand, like in platform Shang price for 5888 of 16GB iPhone 6s, platform to such of play, each draw a Taiwan first can got players are 5888 Yuan of betting money, but phone of source and channel is claimed treasure platform decided of, even from Apple official website no offers purchased into, 16G iPhone 6s of formal price also only for 5288.

Seen from NetEase Indiana this platform, user traffic from various channels to attract great, it depends entirely on price differences will be able to maintain profits, and so far, most shopping platform of mark price and actual price profit reached 20% per cent, even greater than that casino gambling pumping.

In other words, even though Indiana platform just business, profits have been higher than to open casinos. We've found a few examples of popular devices among young, Indiana NetEase platform are calculated price compared with the normal retail price earnings ratio.

(Proposed 1000 iPhone 6s)

(Proposed 550 PS4)

(Samsung S7 edge of fare increase of 400)

Of course, ordering information because of platforms are not fully open, if the platform will use the amount for the difference between cost and price of goods, to bet against the user, in this case, platform can create users a lot of false prosperity, and may in part likely to win the prize, without paying the cost, even real's players won the deal just don't make money.

This behavior does not affect the individual probabilities of betting players, but from an overall point of view, players of the game fairness has been destroyed. However, this is just a possible "conspiracy theory" speculation.

Flow assurance platforms, all need to do this kind of fraud, relying on post profit is sufficient. Because while one Indiana played at the edge of the law, but if it is confirmed that the platform is not fair, and will be prosecuted by the serious punishment.

So how is a platform of Indiana people killed, actually lies with the people themselves.

Before the regulation is not in place, technology was not guilty. No less, no injuries

Playing for Indiana such law, legal persons love van son has been related, get's reply is as follows:

From the point of view of criminal law, it is possible to constitute a crime, but the "chips" and "one Indiana" this piece is to monitor blind spots, many rules and precedents are missing, bad word, but if the Justice Department wants to combat, is arguably constitute a crime.

Beijing newspaper also consulted the Beijing municipal industrial and commercial Bureau officials, the trade and Industry Bureau said: the betting nature of this industry, but from the business sector-related laws, is not illegal, but if fraud is involved, will be handled by the Chinese public security authorities.

One Indiana is not a gamble, with similar gameplay, others decimated the gambling mentality of the culprits is the player itself. It may well just like someone lose everything in a casino is not to give up, someone bought himself destitute in the lottery felt that the sooner trans.

We say technology not guilty, is not for the legal boundaries of play to white wash, in contrast, the purpose of this article today in the hope that the reader can see rational, unitary platform under a fun game such as Indiana's deep desire traps.

Small bet for delight, big bet that kills, no less, there is no harm.

Finally, the perfect system, from the source to avoid destruction of gambling drama.


网易一元夺宝被控诉“害人家破人亡”,那么问题出在哪? - 一元夺宝,网易 - IT资讯

昨天有爆料称,有人在网易大楼前拉起横幅,称网易一元夺宝害其家破人亡。一台5000元的手机,你可能只花1元赢得手机,也可能投注4999元后毫无所获,这就是一元夺宝。

那么,号称让人“家破人亡”的一元夺宝到底是个什么东西,玩家们是怎么在这种互联网游戏中家破人亡的?

一元夺宝也并不只是网易有

目前一元夺宝的平台数量繁多,夺宝平台的运营也不仅仅是网易一家大公司在做。在App Store以“一元夺宝”为关键词,能搜出满满一屏,名称类似,玩儿法相近的网上平台。京东有一元抢宝,美团也上线过类似服务。

(众筹网站1元档)

很多众筹网站中,1元档众筹可以参与一起抽奖,游戏性质也与平台级一元夺宝大同小异。

如何用1元拿到价值5000的手机

把商品的价值平均分配,每一份对应一个独立的号码,玩家可以按照自己的意愿购买一个或者多个号码,然后系统通过一个公开的算法来确定中奖号码,买到中奖号码的玩家得到商品。

网易一元夺宝官网把这一玩法,定义为“众筹”,确实,花大家的钱买同一件商品,而商品的归属权,通过一种看起来很公平的方式选出。

但与常人认知的投入就有明确回报的“众筹”模式不同,网易一元夺宝投入并不一定能收到产品。

花钱买概率,这怎么看,都更像是赌博,而非众筹。

一元夺宝赚的是谁的钱?又是什么让人家破人亡?

定义一个游戏是不是赌博,大概有这样三个要素的判断方式:资金投入、产生回报以及结果由偶然性产生界定。

大概玩家被吸引进这个游戏的原因都是一样的:我可能会用低于商品价值的钱得到想要的商品。而这个游戏的入门门槛又很低,一块钱就可以得到好几千的手机、家电甚至有的平台还有价值几十万的汽车。

看上去模式和彩票很像?可怕的赌徒心理就这样出现了。

以“彩票”“负债”为关键词,能搜索出太多痛心的故事,一元夺宝也大抵如此,毕竟这样的概率游戏,有赢家,就有输家。不过与彩票不同,一元夺宝的可怕之处,在于玩家与平台掌握的信息不等,玩家需要完全相信平台的公正性。

一元夺宝平台的盈利方式比较易懂,举个简单的例子就能明白,比如在平台上标价为5888 的16GB iPhone 6s,平台以这样的玩法,每抽奖一台首先能拿到玩家们5888 元的投注钱,但手机的来源和渠道是夺宝平台决定的,即使从苹果官网无优惠购入,16G iPhone 6s的正规售价也仅为5288。

从网易一元夺宝这个平台来看,从各种渠道吸引来的用户流量极大,完全靠差价便能维持盈利,而从目前来看,大多数一元购平台的标注价格与商品实际的价格的差价比例达到了20%左右,甚至要大于澳门赌场的赌博抽水。

也就是说,即使夺宝平台公正经营,得到的利润也比开赌场还高。为此我们特地找了几个受年轻人欢迎的设备的例子,计算了网易夺宝平台售价与正常渠道零售售价对比的盈利比。

(加价1000的iPhone 6s)

(加价550的PS4)

(加价400的三星S7 edge)

当然,由于平台的下单信息不是完全公开的,如果平台会用商品成本与定价之间的差价额,与用户对赌,这样的话,平台既能够打造出用户很多的假繁荣景象,又可能以一部分几率得奖,完全不用付出成本,即使是真正的玩家获奖了,这笔交易也只是不赚钱。

这一行为不会影响个体玩家的投注概率,但从整体角度来看,玩家的游戏公平性被破坏了。但是,这只是个可能的“阴谋论”推测。

对于流量有保证的大平台来说,完全没必要做这样的舞弊行为,靠差价盈利就足矣了。因为尽管目前一元夺宝的玩法还处在法律的边缘,但如果被人证实平台不公平,就会受到严重的起诉处罚。

那么一元夺宝平台到底是怎么让人家破人亡的,其实还是在于人本身。

监管未到位前,技术无罪。没有手欠,就没有伤害

对于一元夺宝这类玩儿法,爱范儿咨询了相关的法务人士,得到的回复是这样的:

从刑法的角度,是有可能构成犯罪的,但是,“众筹”与“一元夺宝”这一块是监管盲区,很多细则和先例都缺失,不好做定论,但是如果司法部想打击,是可以论证构成犯罪的。

北京商报的记者也咨询了北京市工商局相关负责人,工商局表示:这种行业具有博彩性质,但从工商部门的相关法律来看,并不违法,但如果涉及诈骗,将由中国公安部门处理。

其实无论一元夺宝算不算赌博,用类似玩法,害人家破人亡的罪魁祸首就是玩家本身的赌博心理。这大抵就像有人在赌场中输的精光也不罢休,有人为了买彩票搞得自己家徒四壁还觉得早晚会转运一样。

我们说技术无罪,并不是在为这种打法律擦边球的玩法来洗白,而相反,今天这篇文章的目的,是希望读者能够理性看到,一元夺宝等类似平台藏在趣味玩法下的深深欲望陷阱。

小赌怡情,大赌伤身,没有手欠,就没有伤害。

最后,愿制度更加完善,从源头避免家破人亡的赌博悲剧。






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