Exposure revealed: "the 170,000 square meters in Hebei province water sink" how to find out?
Two rivers volunteer service development center of ChongqingRecently, an article found in 170,000 square meters in the North China region industrial wastewater article caused widespread concern of the sink. Disclosure in the text, in Langfang, Hebei province and Tianjin jinghai district, "stealth" multiple industrial effluent seepage pit, the largest area of 170,000 square meters, or local groundwater has been a security threat.
19th, the Environmental Protection Department, in conjunction with the Hebei provincial government immediately set up a joint investigation team, rushed to the scene to investigate, and confirmed in the afternoon the same day, Hebei Langfang sink pollution problem is true.
Article above is made up of two rivers in Chongqing Volunteering Development Centre (hereinafter referred to as two rivers Center) published. 19th afternoon, journalists dialog two rivers Center and to the spring, its found in Tianjin, Hebei provinces sink into context.
Langfang City Industrial Park on the West side of p plus water sink By rail stumbled upon the sink surface anomalies an established pickling wastewater
Reporter: what was found at the sink?
Xiang Chun: on March 21, we do in Hebei on hutuo River Valley environmental research project. Early because we did a lot of work, production and living of the hutuo River is very understanding of the situation. City sink in hutuo River is about two or three kilometers away from the distance, we found that there is a huge puddle, water is the water red. I basically determine the water problem.
Reporter: Tianjin jinghai County areas?
Xiang Chun: the more casual. On March 23, from Cangzhou by rail to Beijing for a meeting. High-speed rail in the running of the viaduct, eyes looking down I discovered a red puddle underneath has a problem. I note the tube was nothing general location. Until the 28th, I finished just half a day of free time and want to see. If it is not seen by rail, or 28th time, probably won't have it.
Reporter: you seems to be very sensitive about this?
Xiang Chun: while I was a student was born, but I was into environmental protection industry for ten years. In February 2010, we established Chongqing two rivers volunteer centre, focused on industrial pollution prevention and control, usually through investigation and analysis of pollution sources to promote pollution control and reduction, over time naturally form a professional sensitivity. Not say "see what they do"?
Reporter: sink water exception what is red?
Xiang Chun: we have recognized East of Tong Jia Zhuang village in jinghai County, Tianjin is washing wastewater from water in the sink. We discovered through investigation, Tong Jia Zhuang village near a massive pickling factory, which has a strong correlation with sink water. But we don't know what Dacheng Langfang Hebei sink water comes from. We searched found that Zhao helped around town, Dacheng industry is the production of mahogany furniture, with pollution is not quite a match, unable to judge sources.
Dacheng Langfang city sewage in the fields north of Nan Zhao Fu Zhen sink Maximum sink area of 170,000 square meters of wastewater PH values are "strong acid"
Reporter: nearby residents do not know?
Xiang Chun: while we spend more time is not long, but also visited many local residents. They know that sink, but do not know where water comes from, where it's going. May be in the field of transport by tankers to dump here.
Reporters have seen such a big sink before it?
Xiang Chun: 2014 years compared to environmental pollution and the Tengger Desert in Inner Mongolia. Found the largest sinkhole in Langfang County, an area of 170,000 square meters, jinghai County, Tianjin sink area has reached 150,000 square meters.
Reporter: what effect these sink it?
Xiang Chun: main is polluting the groundwater. Drinking water is mainly underground in North China. It's not like Chongqing, if polluted the Yangtze River and jialing River emergency. Once groundwater has been polluted in North China, will greatly influence the living water.
Reporter: the sink will affect the range of living water?
Xiang Chun: I can not answer, answered those who require other more professional.
Reporter: biggest waste water in the sink, volumes about how much?
Xiang Chun: about 300,000. Now sink has 1 to 2 metres deep, but the waste water seeped down. Now sink with the beginning of the water line water level difference of about 2 meters.
Reporter: Tianjin jinghai County just mentioned is pickling waste water in the sink, do you have tested?
Xiang Chun: tested. Test PH test strips showed sink wastewater PH value 1.
Reporter: PH value 1 means what?
Xiang Chun: from the detection level, PH value reaches 1 acid reaches the highest value, are "strong acid". But from wastewater composition, PH value at 1 is also a big gap between the different waste water, we didn't dare sink waste water have a strong corrosive.
Tong Jia Zhuang village in jinghai County, Tianjin City, East of the water sink Environment Ministry publicly responded to the survey called the next day to express thanks
Reporter: the things that attracted the attention of the Ministry of environmental protection, they do have contact with you?
Xiang Chun: Yes, today (19th) morning call us to ask for information. Because there has been no dedicated investigation, so we don't have much information in the hands of. But there are simple tests check images and send them.
Reporter: there will be what the Ministry of environmental protection?
Xiang Chun: some thanks, that we help them to find problems.
Reporter: this is the first time you did attract the attention of the Ministry of environmental protection?
Xiang Chun: no, and many previous contacts with the Ministry of environmental protection, particularly with regard to environmental impact assessment. Generally, we will tell the Government or Department of environmental protection, or direct reports submitted to them, let them come to solve the problem.
Reporter: this time the Ministry responded quickly.
Xiang Chun: Yes. We post on the micro letter public yesterday, immediately responded to the investigation today, I was surprised. Reflect the problem before, they had the longest time for up to six months at a time.
Reporter: in your opinion, why did this so fast?
Xiang Chun: may be due to geopolitical factors, after all sink in Tianjin and Hebei. Another possibility is public opinion, media coverage and public attention to the matter promptly.
Reporter: in recent years, whether the media or the public, are more and more attention to environmental issues.
Xiang Chun: it's inevitable, and increasingly severe environmental situation, everyone's environmental awareness and higher, have an increasingly higher demands on the environment. You can see smog days before probably thought it was a cloudy day, but now we all know is probably haze. Then there is the information more openly.
Tong Jia Zhuang village in jinghai County, Tianjin City, East of the sink waste water using pH test strips test results to between 1 and 2, is a strong acid Temporarily no longer participate in the event in the future or will travel to visit
Reporter: do you have submit solutions to environmental protection departments?
Xiang Chun: No. We just stumbled upon problems, objective has been achieved. Next thing is the local government and environmental organizations. They have more equipment, to solve this problem are also more powerful.
Reporter: based on your experience, Tianjin, Hebei, some sink issues how should I solve it?
Xiang Chun: find the source. Why do we post out just because we can't find the source, do not know the source where it came from. We have tried our best in the investigation. Next step is needed after the media attention, through the efforts of the Government and the media, find the sources, this is the most important. We don't want the Government to take away sewage would be finished, we want to figure out why these pits occurs, who is responsible to find out.
Reporter: do you still get involved?
Xiang Chun: No. Caught the attention of China, get the attention of the media and related sectors, we will not participate. We have no value added things to do next. Things like made public yesterday, is a value-add. But there's a chance to work, will make a return visit to review, see the treatment results.
"Environmental protection long were the norm for more people to participate"
Reporter: this has caused so much public concern, even the Ministry directly response will tell you later What impact do strategy? Xiang Chun: no, we still continue to work routine.
Reporter: does this experience can not copy?
Xiang Chun: the times, another big event, a maximum of two weeks was covered. Environmental protection water out is the norm, not like this, the environmental protection department or the Government of a thing done, next day, China's environment will be different, it's not gonna happen. Environmental improvement is in itself not by such events can be resolved. It only plays a role in promoting more, real still rely on the daily supervision and more people's participation.
Reporter: these two days are not coming on Hebei, Tianjin people call reflect the situation?
Xiang Chun: there is. This feedback is direct.
Reporter: do you have encountered such a situation before?
Xiang Chun: Yes. Many people with EIA issues reported to us, but before that they were looking for was reflected by the Department of environmental protection, but not to respond to and resolve. Environmental authorities know that we are a professional body, more willing to listen to us. Professional organizations also have many advantages, for example, and media. If we report a problem overlooked, we can also attracted media attention and promote problem solving.
Reporter: so what we ordinary people can do about it?
Xiang Chun: still continue to reflect it. Environmental issues are to gradually improve, slowly promoted, will progress forward.
(Reporters Chen Junjun)
(Editors: Liu Cheng UN649)
2017-04-19 22:48:35
Chongqing morning post
曝光者揭秘：“河北省17万平米污水渗坑”如何发现的？
重庆两江志愿服务发展中心 日前，一篇《华北地区发现17万平方米超级工业污水渗坑》的文章引发社会广泛关注。文中披露，在河北省廊坊市大城县和天津市静海区内，“潜藏”多处工业污水渗坑，最大一处面积达17万平米，或已对当地地下水安全造成威胁。
19日，环保部会同河北省政府立即组成联合调查组，赶赴现场进行调查，并于当天下午确认河北廊坊市大城县渗坑污染问题基本属实。
上述文章是由重庆两江志愿服务发展中心（下称两江中心）发布的。19日下午，记者对话两江中心的负责人向春，了解其发现天津、河北两地渗坑的来龙去脉。
廊坊市市八方工业园西侧污水渗坑 坐高铁偶然发现渗坑水面异常 一处确定系酸洗废水
记者：当时是怎么发现两处渗坑的？
向春：3月21日，我们在河北做有关滹沱河流域环境调查项目。由于我们前期做了大量的工作，对滹沱河周边的生产、生活情况很了解。大城的渗坑离滹沱河也就两三公里左右的距离，我们发现有附近有一个巨大的水坑，里面水呈水红色。我就基本判断这里的水有问题。
记者：天津静海县方面呢？
向春：这个就更加偶然了。3月23日，我从沧州坐高铁到北京开会。高铁在高架桥上跑，我一眼往下看就发现了底下红色的水坑有问题。当时我把大致位置记下也没多管了。直到28日，我办完事恰好还要半天的空闲时间，就想去看看。如果不是坐高铁看到，或者28日没有时间，可能根本就不会有这事。
记者：您对这方面好像很敏感？
向春：虽然我是学生物出身的，但我进入环保行业大概都有十年了。2010年2月，我们成立了重庆两江志愿服务发展中心，专注工业污染防治，平时通过环境污染源的调查分析推动污染源治理和减排，久而久之自然形成了职业敏感。不是都说“做什么就看到什么”吗？
记者：渗坑的水呈现异常红色是怎么回事？
向春：我们已经基本确认天津市静海县佟家庄村以东渗坑里的水是酸洗废水。我们通过走访调查发现，佟家庄村附近有大量的酸洗厂，这跟渗坑的污水有很强的相关性。但我们不知道河北廊坊大城县渗坑的污水到底从何而来。我们检索发现，大城县赵扶镇周边的产业主要是生产红木家具，跟污染不太匹配，无法判断污染源。
廊坊市大成县南赵扶镇北边的田地中的污水渗坑 最大渗坑面积达17万平方米 废水PH值属“强酸”
记者：周围的居民也不知道吗？
向春：虽然我们呆的时间不长，但也走访了不少当地的居民。他们知道渗坑的存在，但是也不知道污水从哪里来，到哪里去。可能是外地的用罐车运输到这里倾倒的。
记者：以前有见过这么大的渗坑吗？
向春：也只有2014年内蒙古腾格里沙漠环境污染案能和这次相比了。这次发现最大的渗坑在廊坊大城县，面积达到17万平方米，天津静海县的渗坑面积也达到15万平方米。
记者：这些渗坑会造成什么影响吗？
向春：主要是会污染地下水。华北地区的饮水水源主要还是地下水。它不像重庆，假如长江被污染了，还有嘉陵江水应急。一旦华北地区的地下水被污染了，会极大影响居民的生活用水。
记者：这几个渗坑会影响多大范围的居民生活用水呢？
向春：这我无法回答，需要其他更专业的人士来解答。
记者：最大的渗坑里的废水，体量大概是多少呢？
向春：大约30万方吧。现在的渗坑也就1到2米深，但之前的废水可能往下渗了。现在渗坑的水位线跟最开始的水位线相差大约有2米。
记者：刚刚提到天津静海县渗坑里的是酸洗废水，你们有检测过吗？
向春：检测过。检测的PH试纸显示，渗坑内废水的PH值达到1。
记者：PH值达到1意味这什么？
向春：从检测的层面来说，PH值达到1的酸水就达到最高值，属于“强酸”。 但从废水的成分来讲，PH值达到1的不同废水之间差距也很大，我们也不敢确定渗坑里的废水有很强的腐蚀性。
天津市静海县佟家庄村以东的污水渗坑 环保部次日公开回应调查 亲自致电表达感谢
记者：这个事情引起了环保部的关注，他们事后有跟您们联系吗？
向春：有啊，今天（19日）上午打电话给我们要资料。因为也没有进行过专门的调查，所以我们手上的资料也不多。不过还是把一些图片和简单的检测检测发给他们了。
记者：环保部方面还有说什么吗？
向春：就是一些感谢的话呗，说我们帮助他们发现问题。
记者：这是你们的工作第一次引起环保部的注意吗？
向春：不是，以前跟环保部接触得也很多，尤其是在环境影响评价方面。一般我们都会跟政府或环保部门反映，或者直接形成报告提交给他们，让他们来解决问题。
记者：这一次环保部的反应很快啊。
向春：是的。我们昨天在微信公众号上发文章，今天就立即回应说要调查了，我挺惊讶的。以前反映问题，他们拖得最久的一次可是长达半年时间。
记者：在你看来，为什么这次会这么快？
向春：可能是因为地缘因素吧，毕竟渗坑在天津、河北。另一个可能就是舆情了，媒体一报道，公众就立即关注这件事了。
记者：近年来，不管是媒体还是公众，对环保的问题都越来越重视了。
向春：这是必然的，环境形势越来越严峻，大家的环保意识越来越高，对环境的要求也越来越高。以前大家看到雾霾天可能只以为是阴天，但现在大家都知道可能是雾霾了。再有一个就是信息越来越公开了。
天津市静海县佟家庄村以东的渗坑污水，用ph试纸检测结果为1至2，属强酸 暂时不再参与事件 日后或将前往回访
记者：你们有给环保部门提交解决方案吗？
向春：没有。我们只是偶然发现了问题，目的已经达到了。接下来就是当地政府跟环保部门的事情了。他们有更多的设备，要解决这个问题也更有力。
记者：按你们的经验，天津、河北几处渗坑的问题应该怎么解决呢？
向春：先找到源头。为什么我们会发文章出来，就是因为我们找不到源头，不知道污染源从哪里来的。在调查方面我们已经尽力了。下一步就需要舆论关注后，通过媒体和政府部门的努力，找到污染源，这才是最重要的。我们不希望政府把污水抽走了就完了，我们要搞清楚这些坑为什么会出现，谁该负责要查清楚。
记者：之后你们还会介入吗？
向春：暂时不会。引起中国的关注，得到媒体和相关部门的重视，我们就不参与了。接下来我们已经没有什么增值的事情可做了。像昨天发公号就是一个增值的事情。不过以后有机会到那边工作，也会顺便做个回访复查，看看整治的结果。
“环保工作细水长流是常态 需要更多人参与”
记者：这次引起了这么大的关注，甚至环保部直接回应，会不会对你们以后的办事策略产生什么影响？ 向春：不会的，以后我们还是继续常规地工作。
记者：难道这次事件的经验不可以复制吗？
向春：现在的时代，再大的事件，最多两个星期就被覆盖了。环保工作细水长流是常态，不能都像这次一样，环保部或者政府就某个事情做工作，第二天中国的环境就能有大改观，那是不可能的。环境的改善本身就不是靠这种事件性的东西能解决的。它更多只起到推动作用，真正的还是要靠日常的监管和更多人的参与。
记者：这两天是不是陆续有河北、天津的人打电话过来反映情况？
向春：是有一些。这种反馈很直接。
记者：以前有遇到过这种情况吗？
向春：有啊。很多人有环评的问题向我们举报，但其实在此之前他们都找环保部反映过了，但是得不到回应和解决。环保部门知道我们是专业的机构，就更愿意听我们反映情况。专业机构还有很多优势，例如和媒体合作。如果我们举报的问题得不到重视，我们也可以通过媒体引起社会的关注，推动问题的解决。
记者：那我们普通市民还能做什么呢？
向春：还是继续反映吧。环境问题是要逐步改善的，要慢慢推动，自然会往前进步。
（记者 陈均俊）
(责任编辑：刘盛钱 UN649)
2017-04-19 22:48:35
重庆晨报