584 pictures to compensate 250,000, fried egg nets were "vision China" claim infringement of picture-fried egg, China Visual-IT information

Today (April 20), fried egg network boss, claiming to be egg NET sein only employees on the site published an article entitled the Visual picture China claims copyright, hard article detailing a week use pictures allegedly infringing, fried eggs by the Getty Images Gallery events company vision China, China seek claims.

Just, Sein in the know on the latest instructions are also available for:

First of the infringement as soon as I began to acknowledge and actively take the initiative to communicate.

Is open because the other random prices make me feel not good about.

No V2ex someone cheat on State of mind.

Fried egg really poor advertising revenue, fried egg is a failure in business, this does not say much.

Tips how you can take an article, which is basically no tips.

This article is indeed a lot of tips, because we are now facing is probably the most difficult time. Why hide tips and egg proposals against each other under this payment request. Now it seems this is superfluous.

Nokia the typos, you say rumors with ulterior motives, I have nothing more to say. Nokia did not send letters, messages, our proactive public apology, so everyone will know. In the fried several things in history, I was open and transparent with you, like this.

Sequence of events is as follows:

On April 14, Sein received a tort from vision China told the mail, message, Visual Chinese fried egg in weibo, micro letters picture using its copyrighted pictures, constitute infringement.

Fried egg appeared on the network to translate all foreign websites interesting news and rumors as the main content, the overall style of bias does not make sense, plus the creative team's style of humor grounded, this niche sites have a number of running water, all have a significant number of comments for each article on the website. Never seen eggs friends through a few fried eggs under the title a little bit about painting: how to gracefully remind others--your teeth on the leaves, without toilet paper? Unit after is how to resolve the worries of the ancients, the Pixar universe-level brain, and so on.

Sein said in the article, should be fried eggs original in the translated articles from the Getty diagram, egg reprint use constitutes infringement, but he is not aware of the problem: "but always think we translate English text, reprinted the original picture to use it's okay. Original indeed lots of Mark Getty Images in the picture to see more pictures, not realizing that Getty Images is a commercial gallery, it is our fault. 」

On April 17, Sein carried out extensive background investigation sends a letter to the vision China "beg for mercy" message, spoke about his operations network hard fried egg, text can be sein as "fried egg nets only staff" sincerely upset, but have to say that his style is really ... ... A fried egg (suggest that you go to the feel of the original, not consciously want to laugh, be harmless):

"Never before seriously, carefully read the following, cold feet, if your company claims patterns, we Web site faces closure. 」

"The decline in Web traffic and less advertising revenue company in the end had to disband the Office, now it's just a stamp in the hand. 」

"I thought as a gallery you can partner with us, fried egg, after all, although it does not make money to spread influence. But Internet search your business model is under tort claims, to tell you the truth I'm afraid and don't know what to do. 」

After 4 days, China Visual replied to this email, and offers a packed programme of cooperation can continue to use the pictures, programmes valued at 250,000.

Sein sees this programme crashes, he says the current cash-strapped for fried eggs, he can not accept the price discount of 10 percent.

He began cleaning up on the Twitter micro-content, and apply for vision China only partial discount for infringement claims, but vision China today received a reply sein storm collapsed:

Hello, General us price is 500 Yuan/piece, or even higher, given your side has been actively cooperate with this violation, so we changed the compensation price to 200 Yuan/Zhang.

Because the picture of cooperation programmes on price of 60 Yuan, compensation in the case of active cooperation into a 200 yuan each. Vision China's explanation is that tort pictures price is supposed to be more expensive than the normal Download price, while micro-a clear picture on Twitter earlier also made legal notarization of tort compensation.

This communication process in sein in the article, is not described, but again expressed love of sein teacher humor style, although I know he is really very sad, finally, he said: "but the fried egg and no money. Having this fight desperatedly. To tell Sue, die die well. 」

So sein found during search of vision China's business model is "tort" is true? Visual business model was introduced in China:

Vision China through its own platform, smooth efficient docking the supply side and the demand side of the picture, the company passed into the form of income. Vision China has huge number of contributors, have very strong bargaining power in both upstream and downstream. The business model of the company is very healthy, main features include logistics and zero inventory, zero positive cash flow.

Reports, "2014 Chinese listed companies reputation list" in the selection of vision China was named "best business model of listed companies."

In the know "vision China what's the business model? Which is the main service target groups? "The problem, the most the answer to answer the main questions of its business model, like most answers are:

East: estimated most of the staff lawyers, they estimated VIP channel in the Court. Sue is also a business model to make money.

Vision 2015 annual report of China, China Visual Internet media and entertainment this category revenues accounted for 78.39%, and in the cost column, copyright service charge expenditure accounted for more than 70% of the industry classification, which means, buy sell copyright, copyright, copyright protection is the vision of China's main revenues.

Writes reports, vision China has a dedicated legal team, image infringement on the team has fought many battles, each "pirates" will be presented to the user public, warning, either reconciliation or see you in court, the amount of compensation ranged in the hundreds of thousands of Yuan each. Netizen says, China has a vision system can automatically crawl the Internet, image infringement of company, the system can even filter Enterprise microblogging.

Eggs not only suffered from vision China small sites such as the site claims, publish content on the Internet the size of content providers have experienced similar events. On August 5, 2016, today's headlines had been under the Apple APP Store, back online a few days later, rumored to be the next reason is by Visual report, China, the picture has copyright problems.

However, judgments online visual Chinese divisions in cases of infringement, there are many cases were dismissed. Dismissed the focus tends to be concentrated in: companies involved in the case whether the picture has a copyright, charged and whether the alleged infringement takes place in companies within the license period, and whether the defence constitute an infringement. On these issues, vision and its subsidiaries in China if not given strong evidence, the Court will decide the appeal request is not established. There is also a Supreme Court vision China (Getty Images) case against the company.

Then again, eggs indeed infringement, this is the business of copyright, Microsoft, Adobe is also similar, when even the gates also said that China "stole" and direct with a copy of Police Office ... ...

Still hope that things are well resolved, Sein and fried eggs are so cute after all. Ah!

584张图片要赔偿25万，煎蛋网被“视觉中国”索赔图片侵权费 - 煎蛋,视觉中国 - IT资讯

今天（4月20日），煎蛋网老大、自称是煎蛋网唯一员工的sein在该网站上发布了一篇题为《被视觉中国索赔图片版权，很难受》的文章，详述了一周以来因使用图片涉嫌侵权，煎蛋被Getty Images图库中国代理公司视觉中国找上门索赔的事件。

就在刚刚，sein在知乎上又对此事发表了最新的说明：

首先这个侵权事实我一开始就承认并积极主动去沟通。

之所以公开出来是因为对方随意涨价让我感觉这事没法善了。

并没有V2ex上某人说的耍赖心态。

另外煎蛋的的广告收入真的很可怜，煎蛋在商业上是失败的，这个就不多说了。

至于打赏有多少，你可以随便看一篇文章，基本是没有打赏的。

这篇文章的确不少打赏，因为我们现在面临着可能是最困难的时候。为什么把打赏隐藏，也是蛋友的建议，防止对方公司根据这个提高赔付要求。看来现在这个是多此一举了。

诺基亚那个错别字事件，被你说成别有用心的造谣，我也无话可说。再说诺基亚并没有发律师函，而是邮件，我们主动积极的公开道歉，所以大家才知道。在煎蛋历史上若干大小事，我都是公开透明的跟大家说，一如这次。

事件的来龙去脉是这样的：

4月14日，sein收到了视觉中国发来的侵权告知邮件，邮件中，视觉中国称煎蛋在新浪微博、微信所用图片使用了其版权图片，构成侵权。

煎蛋网以翻译各个境外网站上出现的有趣的新闻以及传闻为主要内容，整体风格偏无厘头，加上主创团队的幽默接地气的风格，这个小众网站拥有一批自来水，网站上每篇文章都有不少评论。没看过煎蛋的朋友可以通过几个标题稍微了解下煎蛋的画风：《如何优雅的提醒别人——你牙上有菜叶》、《没有厕纸？古人是如何解决后股之忧的》、《皮克斯的宇宙级大脑洞》等等。

sein在文章中说，应该是煎蛋在翻译外稿时部分原文所用的Getty的图，煎蛋转载过来使用就构成了侵权，但一开始他并未意识到这个问题：「但总以为我们翻译英文原文，转载原文图片使用应该没关系。原文图片里的确很多标示了Getty Images的图片，没有意识到Getty Images是商业图库，这是我们的失误。」

4月17日，sein在进行了大量背景调查之后给视觉中国发出了一封「求饶」邮件，讲述了自己运营煎蛋网的艰难，文字间可以感到sein作为「煎蛋网唯一员工」的真诚和不安，但是不得不说他的文风真的……很煎蛋了（建议大家去原文感受，不自觉地想笑，无恶意）：

「之前没当回事，仔细看了下，感觉手脚冰凉，如果按你们公司的索赔模式，我们网站恐怕面临着倒闭。」

「日渐下滑的web流量和越来越少的的广告收入最终让公司办公室不得不解散，现在公司就剩个公章在手上。」

「原本我以为作为图库的你们可以跟我们成为合作方，毕竟煎蛋网虽然不赚钱到传播影响力还在。但网上搜了下你们的盈利模式就是侵权索赔，说实话我现在很害怕，不知道怎么办才好。」

4天后，视觉中国回复了这封邮件，并提供了一个可以继续使用图片的合作打包方案，方案总价值为25万。

看到这个方案的sein崩溃了，他表示对于目前囊中羞涩的煎蛋来说，这个价格打一折他都接受不了。

他开始清理微博微信上的有关内容，并申请视觉中国只针对侵权部分打折赔付，但今天收到视觉中国回复的sein风暴崩溃了：

您好，一般我们单独赔偿的价格都是500元/张甚至更高，鉴于您这边一直积极配合解决此侵权事件，故我们把赔偿单价改为200元/张。

因为上图合作方案的图片价格还是60元，赔偿价却在积极配合的情况下变成了200元一张。视觉中国方面对此的解释是：侵权图片的价格理应是比正常下载使用的价格要贵，同时微信微博上清除的图片此前做过法务公证的侵权部分还要是做出赔偿。

此中沟通过程sein都放在了文章中，就不尽述了，但需再次表达对sein老师幽默文风的喜爱，虽然我知道他真的很悲伤，文章最后他说：「但煎蛋并没有钱。既然这样鱼死网破吧。要告就告，要死就死好了。」

那么sein在查资料时发现的视觉中国的盈利模式就是「侵权索赔」是真的么？视觉中国方面的商业模式介绍是：

视觉中国通过自身的平台，通畅高效地将图片的供给方和需求方进行对接，公司通过分成的形式获取收入。视觉中国有海量的供稿人，在上下游均有非常强的议价能力。公司的商业模式非常健康，主要特征包括零库存、零物流以及正向的现金流。

有报道显示，在“2014中国上市公司口碑榜”评选中，视觉中国被评选为“最佳商业模式上市公司”。

而在知乎“视觉中国的商业模式是怎样的？它的主要服务对象是哪类群体？”问题下，大多数答主的答案都在质疑其盈利模式，点赞最多的答案是：

向东：估计公司的大部分员工是律师吧，他们在法院估计有vip通道。靠打官司赚钱也是一种盈利模式。

视觉中国2015年年报显示，视觉中国在互联网传媒与娱乐这一分类营收占到了78.39%，而在成本构成一栏，版权服务费支出同样占到该行业分类的七成以上，这也就意味着，买版权、卖版权、版权维护是视觉中国的主要营收。

有报道写道，视觉中国有专门的法务团队，这个团队对于图片侵权案已经身经百战，每发现“盗图行为”，便要向使用者提出公证，警告，要么和解，要么法庭上见，赔偿金额在几百到上千元一张不等。网友称，视觉中国有一套系统能自动抓取互联网上有图片侵权的公司，这套系统甚至可以筛选企业微博号。

不仅煎蛋这样的小网站遭遇过视觉中国的上门索赔，在互联网上发布内容的大小内容提供方都曾遭遇类似事件。2016年8月5日，今日头条曾被苹果APP Store下架，数日后才恢复上线，传言被下架的理由是被视觉中国举报，其所用的图片存在版权问题。

不过，中国裁判文书网上视觉中国告侵权纠纷的案件中，也有不少案件都被驳回。被驳回焦点往往集中在：公司对案涉图片是否拥有著作权，被控侵权行为是否发生在公司的授权许可期限内，以及被告方是否构成侵权。在这些问题上，视觉中国及其子公司若不能给出有力的举证，法院则会判定上诉请求不成立。这里还有一个最高院裁定视觉中国(华盖创意)公司败诉的案例。

话说回来，煎蛋确实侵权了，版权的生意也确实是这样，微软、Adobe也都是类似，想当初连盖茨也说过，让中国人先「偷」，然后直接带着警察抄办公室……

还是希望事情得到很好的解决，毕竟sein和煎蛋都好可爱啊。啊！